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File explorer and management for my ReadyNAS
I have been using my ReadyNAS 104 now for a few weeks. Generally very impressed - and for the price it is unbeatable. The only one thing I am surprised at is the file management interface and capab...
Got it working!!
Based on your explanation of the issue, I just cleaned out all network mappings with net use * /delete, manually disconnected WinExplorer mappings and deleted all credentials and rebooted.
When re-started, I network mapped in WinExplorer checking the 'use other credentials' - then entering the cloud user credentials from my NAS. Used the NAS name (not the IP address) in the network mapping and checked the keep credentials and re-connect at logon. When creating more drive mappings to the same NAS, I followed the same process, but didn't try and enter new credentials ('cos it errors if I did).
Hey presto, all shares mapped to drives and persist at login.
Thanks greatly for pointing me in the right direction, and helping me to find a little more about net use, Windows credentials manager and to keep persisting ;-)
Jon
Getting a good user web interface to the NAS is long overdue (and IMO that shouldn't be limited to ReadyCloud). These look like good ideas for the ideas exchange section of the forum, so perhaps post them there. Perhaps post them individually. I'm not so sure about 8, you might want to post the use cases you have in mind for that one (in the idea exchange post).
Netgear views the build-in gui as an administrator tool, not a user tool. Shares do need to be created from the web ui, but subfolders are created from file explorer (or finder). Normal file manipulation (including setting file permisisons) is all done from the client OS. That shouldn't be "flaky" if you have a solid network connection, but browsing large folders will be sluggish - to some degree that's a drawback of the CIFS file sharing protocol, though of course a NAS with a faster CPU would speed it up.
FWIW, Pydio is the newer name for ajaxexplorer, I suspect the older app should simply be deleted from the app store. Plex might be of interest to you for the video features.
Hopefully others will post on their experience with Pydio and other file management tools.
StephenB - thanks alot for replying - you seem a very active contributor and much appreciated.
I will post the ideas in the Exhange forum as you suggested.
When you say you you're not sure about number 8), which one did you mean as I dont think I listed 8 suggestions?
When I say network drive mapping is flaky I mean it's hard to connect - I tried as per knowledge base (ie map network drive from Win explorer) and Windows says cant access. I search under 'network' icon and Winexplorer shows the NAS. I clicik on it and WinExplorer asks for user credentials. I enter the admin ones and it fails to connect (maybe something to do with it entering the PC name as domain, but I dont know). I enter my cloud user credentials and it maps. Then after reboot, sometimes the network map disappears... I have enabled admin and cloud user access on all of the shares and they have SMB set as the protocol... should I be using another network protocol for this sort of stuff?
Thanks again!
Jon
redstamp wrote:
When you say you you're not sure about number 8), which one did you mean as I dont think I listed 8 suggestions?
Sorry, that was a typo. I meant 7 - ability to cache changes and the NAS completes them in the background
Whether that's a good idea or not depends on what the changes are. The backup job facility does give you some ability to run changes in the background, as do automatic snapshots and volume maintenance.
redstamp wrote:
When I say network drive mapping is flaky I mean it's hard to connect - I tried as per knowledge base (ie map network drive from Win explorer) and Windows says cant access. I search under 'network' icon and Winexplorer shows the NAS. I clicik on it and WinExplorer asks for user credentials. I enter the admin ones and it fails to connect (maybe something to do with it entering the PC name as domain, but I dont know). I enter my cloud user credentials and it maps. Then after reboot, sometimes the network map disappears... I have enabled admin and cloud user access on all of the shares and they have SMB set as the protocol... should I be using another network protocol for this sort of stuff?
SMB is the right protocol.
Windows will only let you access the NAS using one credential at a time (that is a windows issue, not in the NAS). There is a trick though - the PC credential management treats the IP address and the NAS name as two different machines, so it is possible to use the cloud credential for the name, and the admin credential for the IP address.
So first try this test. Open CMD on the PC, and enter
net use * /delete
net use t: \\nasipaddress\data /user:admin nasadminpassword
Use the real ip address and real admin password of course. Be careful on the typing, the direction of the slashes and the spaces matter.
The first command terminates any open network connections. If it prompts, then let it proceed. It will also advise you if there is nothing to terminate.
The second maps the NAS data volume to drive letter T. Let us know if it works (or if not how it fails). You have to use admin as the user for this. (If you use flexraid, and named the data volume something else, then use that name of course).
If the test works, then you can open the windows credential manager (it is in the control panel; win 10 will also find it if you enter "credential" in the windows search bar). Delete any credentials for the NAS that are there already, then enter new windows credentials for the NAS (either using "admin" or your cloud account - or both if you like the trick). That should solve your difficulty connecting.
Note that if you do use the NAS IP address, you should go into your router and see if you can reserve it's current IP address (so the router will always assign the same address). Most routers let you do this - many call it "address reservation" others call it "arp binding".
Getting a mapped drive to mount consistently on a reboot can be tricky - what version of windows are you using?
Yeah, the use cases for point 7 was having a file manager that wouldn't wait for the changes to be made in a directory before you can make more changes to that same directory - making it assume files have been added, then let me start organising them immediately. (Other option would be organise before adding to the NAS, but they're coming from lots of other drives, so easier to organise once on the NAS). Maybe this is just specific to me at the moment as I am getting everything uploaded to the two NAS' and seems to be very slow going at 2MB/s... [but I am running a Devolo 200AV powerline connection from my main uploading PC to my router, which gets a speed test of 15Mbps to external, so not expecting much more].
Ref network connections. Deleted fine (all four share mappings). Tried to invoke reconnection as described and got "System Error 86 - specified network password is not correct". I doubled checked and it was right. So I thought - let's start clean - deleted the two identical Credential Manager details for the NAS name (which were both my Cloud NAS user) and rebooted.
I then tried again to invoke net use and got new error "System Error 67 - the network name cannot be found". Wondered if the '\data\' bit might be specific to my NAS and tried '\data\arealshareonmynas', then tried without the '\data\' - all got same result (actually one without \data got error1244 user not authenticated). Then, whilst writing this I realised I had actually typed \data\ - and after you specifically told me to get the spaces and slashes right - doh! Anyway I retried typing '\data' and the previous one returned: "System Error 86 - the specified network password is not correct".
The NAS is mapped to a static IP in the routers DHCP and has been for weeks, so that should be fine (and shouldn't have been an issue on reboot).
Using Win7 64bit Home Premium, but about to upgrade to Win10, as left it as long as possible and dont wanna get left behind with free updates ;-)
Thanks for all of your help Stephen!
Jon
PS How do you do that quote thing - quite useful...
Just realised what I was doing wrong - you meant '\data' as the name of one of my shares on the NAS - sorry and corrected.
Now when trying to use user:admin, then get System Error 86 - specified network password is not correct
When trying to use user:nascloudusername, then works fine (like it did from WinExplorer), but if I add the persistent switch when remapping this drive and reboot, windows wont re-connect and throws an error ref multiple users with same username (which is what I suspect you meant in your post and why we're trying to get the IP connection to use admin...
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