Yohdah,I've been following all the blogs posts regarding Lion, AFP, and the Readynas Duo. What is unclear to me is if the two beta releases for the Duo have fixed Time Machine or not. For me it's not working at all. I have the Time Machine service enabled on the Duo. But I can't see the Time Machine share from my Macbook in the Time Machine Preferences. It just doesn't see it. Furthermore, I have my AFP shares working again in Finder BUT, I had to explicitly mount them by IP address (i.e., afp://192.168.1.5, etc). In Snow Leopard my Duo's AFP shares were always located via Bonjour (I think). I could go to Networks and they would show up after it received advertisements. Now it never sees them unless I explicitly mount it. I'm assuming this might be why I can't see my Time Machine share as well.So in summary, is Time Machine still broken for the Duo (and other Sparc NAS's)? Is the above behavior I described with AFPs shares not being advertised expected? If not, do you have any suggestions or help?OS: MacOS LionNAS: Readynas Duo running 4.1.8-T9 betaThanks!

I too am unable to get TM to back up with 4.1.8-T9. Finder can mount the disks and see files. I can read/write. But TM is a no go. Needless to say, Entering TM also does not work. Help.Mac OS: 10.7ReadyNAS: Duo running 4.1.8 - T9

Did not even occur to me to check if my NAS was compatible with Lion. I'm bumming and, but I'm not willing to take a beta version. Is there any eta for a production ready fix that will allow me to mount my drive and use TimeMachine. I don't have any idea what scale we are expected to wait...day, weeks, months...neverJay

I'm in the same boat as you guys.. I'm without backup for 21 days now.. And that really sucks.. because I can't even open up my previous backups, or find them in TM.

Note that as of Lion, you have to use the Time Machine service on the ReadyNAS (as well as 4.1.8). If you were using the old method of storing your backups on other shares, Lion won't see them.4.1.8 updates the Time Machine service on the ReadyNAS to support Time Machine under Lion. Reports on the T9 beta seem fairly good; it's unclear to me whether there are any outstanding issues.There is a way to make other shares support Time Machine, but it's unsupported and requires manual tinkering with configuration files on the NAS. I don't want to use it for everyday use, but if I were stuck unable to restore, I'd consider it: see here for details.

It's now some 23 days without TM backup or access to the backup share. Have rebooted the Duo a number of times as well as my 2008 Macbook Pro and my 2009 iMac which both Lion. Am able to see the Duo via AFP and can see the back up shares via TM. And since I can use Finder to access all of the Duo's files via AFP, I am assuming AFP works. However, when actually running a TM backup, it aborts and states that "The network backup disk does not support the required AFP features."My 2008 Macbook and 2011 Macbook Pro that remain on SL both have TM working fine on the same NAS running 4.1.8-T9 beta.Leads me to think that there is something still not happy with the way Lion TM uses AFP to find the shares.Need the Return of the Jedi to fix the problem please!Mac OS: 10.7ReadyNAS: Duo running 4.1.8 - T9 beta

Lion + Readynas Duo (beta) + Time Machine = FAIL??

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atlgator
Aspirant
Aug 12, 2011
FYI, I had previously tried disabling/enabling Bonjour, AFP, as well as multiple other things on my Duo to try and fix this issue. I finally took the risk of disabling/enabling the Time Machine Service even though i was worried I'd lose my backup. That finally fixed things. The moment I restarted it it showed up in the Time Machine preferences in Lion. And my old files were still there. Backing up as we speak! :-)
CharlesLaCour
Aspirant
Aug 12, 2011
I would wait and see if AFP stays up. I recently had an issue with the Beta firmware to support Lion on the Intel base NAS. The AFP process kept failing at the same time every day. After removing a couple of community add-ons and rebooting the issue went away.

Frontview would still show AFP as running but the process had actually died and by stopping it in the UI it really did nothing and then starting it would start the process up again.
pjc1
Aspirant
Aug 12, 2011
@nyee: Time Machine can handle multiple machines' backups. Each sparsebundle has the machine name and hardware MAC address, so they're uniquely named, even if on the same share. (This is the same way a Time Capsule does it.) The one thing you lose by going to a single share is the ability to individually cap machines' space usage. Instead, they'll all grow until the Time Machine service hits its quota. (Unfortunately, things aren't especially pretty at that point if your machines have very different usage patterns, but that's due to Apple's design on the client side, and not a ReadyNAS-specific issue.)

@atlgator: Glad to hear that stopping/starting the TM service got it pop up on Bonjour again! A bit surprising, but glad you're able to back up again. Could you tweak the subject of your original post to mark your issue as resolved (or that it has a workaround)? I think the only pending issue on this thread is salvobeta's, and he already started another thread about that.
atlgator
Aspirant
Aug 12, 2011
@PJC - So I think there still is an issue. My Time Machine backup just finished up. And now my Time Machine share has disappeared from within Lion. So I think the other people out there may be right. Something dies on the NAS after a while and it's no longer visible. I tried everything I could from my Macbook and it was just gone. Then I went back to my Duo and stopped and restarted the Time Machine Service and it was instantly visible again to Lion. So there is definitely still a stability issue in the latest Beta.
atlgator
Aspirant
Aug 17, 2011
I continued to see this same exact behavior all weekend long on my Duo with the latest Beta. Seems like the AFS or Bonjour service must die every once in a while and all Bonjour advertisement ceases. My shares disappear from the Network browser in Lion and my Time Machine mount can no longer be found. If I shutdown the Time Machine service and restart it all comes back. Still no comment from Yoh-dah on this one. Hopefully they are aware of something in this area as his twitter indicated they may be close to a final release....
pjc1
Aspirant
Aug 17, 2011
Have you sent them your logs?

There definitely seem to be some issues with services crashing in T9.
atlgator
Aspirant
Aug 18, 2011
@PJC, no I haven't. This is my first issue with my Readynas. I'll try to collect this tonight. Thanks for the link on how to do this.
krissjwilliams
Aspirant
Aug 20, 2011
Hello,

I have been using t9 and lion for a few weeks and struggled. Although after following the advice of adding "afp://ReadyNAS@[server IP]/" this then allowed time machine to access the drive.

Problem i have now is its not letting me back up as the old sparsebundle is in the folder. Any advice on how to delete this, tried sending to trash but an hour later and no progress. Thanks for reading.

yoh-dah

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Aug 21, 2011

atlgator wrote:
@PJC - So I think there still is an issue. My Time Machine backup just finished up. And now my Time Machine share has disappeared from within Lion. So I think the other people out there may be right. Something dies on the NAS after a while and it's no longer visible. I tried everything I could from my Macbook and it was just gone. Then I went back to my Duo and stopped and restarted the Time Machine Service and it was instantly visible again to Lion. So there is definitely still a stability issue in the latest Beta.

atlgator wrote:
@PJC - So I think there still is an issue. My Time Machine backup just finished up. And now my Time Machine share has disappeared from within Lion. So I think the other people out there may be right. Something dies on the NAS after a while and it's no longer visible. I tried everything I could from my Macbook and it was just gone. Then I went back to my Duo and stopped and restarted the Time Machine Service and it was instantly visible again to Lion. So there is definitely still a stability issue in the latest Beta.

Can you send in your logs (see my sig for instr)?

atlgator
Aspirant
Aug 22, 2011
Yoh-Dah,

I followed the instructions and sent the logs last night. You should have them. I haven't messed much with Time Machine in the last week but you should see some activity back around the 14th-17th of the month where I was playing around a bit. Seems like everything comes to life if I stop/start the Time Machine service. After Lion backs up to it, a while later (I admit I don't know the time frame) it is unable to find the Time Machine share anymore. My Readynas also ceases to show up in Finder at that point as well. I have to mount shares explicitly by IP after that. If there is anything you want me to try on the NAS and then recollect logs for you, please let me know.

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