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DerekARCook
Nov 20, 2020Follower
Ready NAS Duo v2 (RND 2000) Cannot See Host on Network
Device is working perfectly on my home network, however, I can no longer find it or access it using the \\NAS-BE-D6-D8 host name, only via the IP address which will not show any hidden/private folder...
StephenB
Nov 30, 2020Guru - Experienced User
BillRead wrote:
But what about accessing the Shares, will I always have to manually open the Ip route?? Thanks Bill
Try entering \\nas-name in the file address bar, (using the real hostname of your NAS), and see if that also works.
After we make sure that works, we can set up a simpler way to access. Alternatives to clicking on the network icon are
- add NAS shares as "network locations", which would appear in the main explorer pane
- create shortcuts to the NAS shares on your desktop
- Mount NAS shares as disk drive letters
BillRead
Dec 01, 2020Aspirant
SO what do we need to do before can set up simpler access???
HI putting the //nas-name in the explorer bar takes me to sign into the nas via the Browser. Not to the share folders directly. So this doesnt seem to work.
I wasnt accessing the share folders via the 'Netgear' Icon if i left click on that under NETWORK part of my PC it just opens the standard folders i started this chat with.
To get to the share folders, either i can enter the Ipaddress in the browser, and sign in.
Or as last suggested type \\IP-address into the explorer bar...which does take me to a page with the share folders accessible, and usable.
at that point under 'network'
SO what do now need do before can set up simpler access please?? Thanks
- StephenBDec 01, 2020Guru - Experienced User
BillRead wrote:putting the //nas-name in the explorer bar takes me to sign into the nas via the Browser.
You used the wrong slash direction. \\nas-name is what is needed. Please check that again.
BillRead wrote:
if i left click on that under NETWORK part of my PC it just opens the standard folders i started this chat with.
That icon is linked to the DLNA server running on the NAS, and not the file shares. There's no method I know of that will force Windows to put the correct icon (for "computer") in the network list. So we will need to work around that - using one of the alternative access methods I gave you earlier.
What steps are needed depends on which alternative method you want to use. Options are
- A desktop shortcut to the NAS, that you would click on - opening file explorer and showing the share list. Then click on the share/folder you want (as usual).
- a network location for each share, which would show up in the main file explorer page ("this PC").
- a mapped drive letter that would give you a different drive letter for each share in file explorer (presenting the shares as if they were disks).
Personally I think the desktop shortcut is the most convenient. But different folks have different preferences on this.
- BillReadDec 01, 2020Aspirant
Hi
OK, I can access the share folders, either through \\Ip address, or \\Nas-name entered in the Explorer bar.
I do with one of the NAS have some issues accessing via Browser I have to enetr the Ip address\admin several times before get to control panel. Whereas the 2nd goes straight in that way. ALso IF use IP-address/shares in browser it takes me to main share level but that also doesnt give any further acess. So will just enter ip-address/admin in future to get to control panel at least.
Couple questions on this. I had made a new share folder when in admin trying get access a couple days ago. It now will not let me delete that share folder...
Second, I had a top level share folder once, and others inside that, now I have that folder empty, an dthe others are there as seperate folders, maybe something moved?
Anyway main point is, I can access by either method above.
so please when explain how set up so access is simpler, be precise. I know a little of this, but not a lot.
many thanks
Bill
- StephenBDec 01, 2020Guru - Experienced User
BillRead wrote:
so please when explain how set up so access is simpler, be precise. I know a little of this, but not a lot.
Here's the method using a desktop shortcut:
- right-click on an empty spot on your desktop
- Select New->shortcut
- Enter \\nas-name in the location field (being careful to use the correct slash)
- Click next
- Enter the name that you want for the shortcut
- Click Finish
This will put a shortcut icon on your desktop. Clicking on the shortcut will open up file explorer, and show you the folders on the NAS.
- StephenBDec 01, 2020Guru - Experienced User
BillRead wrote:
I had made a new share folder when in admin trying get access a couple days ago. It now will not let me delete that share folder...
Are you trying to delete it from the admin web ui?
BillRead wrote:
Second, I had a top level share folder once, and others inside that, now I have that folder empty, an dthe others are there as seperate folders, maybe something moved?
You can't share a subfolder of a share, so I am not clear on what you are saying. Is it possible that you created a share for each of the subfolders, and then moved the contents into the shares?
- BillReadDec 01, 2020Aspirant
Hi, When trying to delete the 'new' share i created , it was created in the Browser ( web?) Radiator access to the NAS. I called it attempt. Its through the MAin NAS access in the browser, I have to enter for either NAs //192/168/1/.../admin in the browser top bar, and then it asks for the NAs username and password. This used to be easy, but I have the last few days had a few issues with this as well, it can take 5 or 8 attempts of enetering the admin, and password before it allows access to radiator... Is there a way to correct that, or make better??
I can still access either NAs using the explorer bar, and the format you said of //Nas-name see attached image. The folders i was speaking of were, that originally i seem to remember i had a top level Folder in each NAS, in the Films NAS, One Films-NAS-ALL, The otherin the Music NAS, Music-NAS-All and inside were the other folders as sub folders. I dont remember moving them out, so seperate, but may have done so that each was accessible without going through the above two 'all' folders.
Now on Films NAS, Attempt,( I created and want to delete, but when i try in the Browser Radiator it will not do so, I tried selecting and deleteing several times). & Films-NAS-ALL, are empty, media and backup seem to have a mixture of folders in them, including PVR data ( empty), library,(empty) and other folders Bittorrent (empty), music ( empty), pictures ( empty)etc. there is also a file called smb servers, and javasetup ( possibly from last attempt to update software when had to instal java), I would guess some could be deleted now, especially if starting setup again to EVO, although it may still pick up where access last stopped 2 years back.
Music NAS , again Music-NAS-All is empty ( as i said above i may have moved nested folders out and just dont remeber, but it was once a top level folder). And it again has the Media folder( sub folders Bittorrent, Music, Pictures, Videos, all empty...so could clear of not required?), ) and backup folder ( inside Library,( just a file mlibrary)inside pvrdata,(empty) and Thumbs( few bits old rubbish!)
So a lot could be removed as empty or not needed?
I have while in Radiator for the Films NAS tried delete several times the Attempt etc.
NOW I can access both NAs share folders using \\nas-name BUT if i go back to using the \\Ip-address, for both NAS that now comes up as 'this folder is empty????? See image I did try closing the film one opened using \\nas-name but still using the Ip address option it came up as empty. I'm only a simples Guy, so getting a little bemused why entry options keep moving so.
Weds I am up to eyeballs with work, but will be able to look at this a bit later tonight, or tomorrow ( weds)
Thanks for keeping up with me, and i tried the shortcut version, that works thanks. what are oher options. And can anything be automatic if either the NAS is turned on after computer is running, or if NAS is on, when the Computer is booted ?? I will look back at the other options you mentioned. But as I said, most of this is new to me.
Thanks
Bill
- StephenBDec 02, 2020Guru - Experienced User
BillRead wrote:
Now on Films NAS, Attempt,( I created and want to delete, but when i try in the Browser Radiator it will not do so, I tried selecting and deleteing several times). & Films-NAS-ALL, are empty, media and backup seem to have a mixture of folders in them, including PVR data ( empty), library,(empty) and other folders Bittorrent (empty), music ( empty), pictures ( empty)etc. there is also a file called smb servers, and javasetup ( possibly from last attempt to update software when had to instal java), I would guess some could be deleted now, especially if starting setup again to EVO, although it may still pick up where access last stopped 2 years back.
Music NAS , again Music-NAS-All is empty ( as i said above i may have moved nested folders out and just dont remeber, but it was once a top level folder). And it again has the Media folder( sub folders Bittorrent, Music, Pictures, Videos, all empty...so could clear of not required?), ) and backup folder ( inside Library,( just a file mlibrary)inside pvrdata,(empty) and Thumbs( few bits old rubbish!)
So a lot could be removed as empty or not needed?
I have while in Radiator for the Films NAS tried delete several times the Attempt etc.
Are you trying to
- delete the files from your browser: https://nas-name/shares or https://nas-name/sharename
- delete the files from file explorer: \\nas-name\sharename
- delete the entire share from https://nas-name/admin ?
- something else?
You should be able to delete any of the shares from https://nas-name/admin (or https://nas-ip-address/admin). Just navigate to the shares list. There is a column labeled "delete" - you check the shares you want to delete, and then then click apply on the bottom right.
If you can't delete files inside a share, then it is possible that that this is a file permissions problem. That can be fixed, but it'd be helpful to get a few more specifics on how you are doing the deletion firsr.
As far as the nested folders go - where do you want the folders to be?
BillRead wrote:
NOW I can access both NAs share folders using \\nas-name BUT if i go back to using the \\Ip-address, for both NAS that now comes up as 'this folder is empty????? See image I did try closing the film one opened using \\nas-name but still using the Ip address option it came up as empty. I'm only a simples Guy, so getting a little bemused why entry options keep moving so.
I'm not sure what is happening here. Perhaps reboot the PC, and try this again?
BillRead wrote:
Thanks for keeping up with me, and i tried the shortcut version, that works thanks. what are oher options. And can anything be automatic if either the NAS is turned on after computer is running, or if NAS is on, when the Computer is booted ?? I will look back at the other options you mentioned. But as I said, most of this is new to me.
There is no fully automatic method. It is possible to map each share (or some shares) to a drive letter on the PC. That can be set up so it is redone when the PC boots - but it only would work if the NAS was already on. Even then it would sometimes fail. I don't think that's the best method for you.
The other option is to add the shares to File Explorer as network locations. That would look something like this:
You'd see this view by clicking on "this PC" in the left pane of file explorer.
The process is similar to creating a shortcut. You begin by clicking on "add a network location" (shown at the top of my screenshot). Then enter \\nas-name\sharename, and enter whatever name you want for the location. Note you can't just add \\nas-name as a network location, you have to enter a sharename.
You can of course use both methods - adding the shares you access most often as network locations, but still having a desktop shortcut that takes you to the full share list.
- BillReadDec 07, 2020Aspirant
Hi most things are working still. I havent had time, as recently my dog had foot cancer, and i have just got through the operation period. Plus 200 Chickens to look after. But will attempt the last shares bit tomorrow.
Many thanks Bill
- BillReadDec 07, 2020Aspirant
HI , Just found time to try this, and created a network Link, it all worked. So many thannks for all your help. Now I can set things up how I want them. Hopefully if I hit a hiccup you wont mind helping again. You really seem to know whats what eh? All the best
Bill
- StephenBDec 07, 2020Guru - Experienced User
I'm glad you are back up and running! Thx for following up.
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