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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

justin579
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Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

i'm having terrible packetloss on ALL devices. restarted modem, factory reset modem and still nothing. has been like that for a week. isp was useless saying it is my fault but the modem is ok.

 

I unplugged everything from the modem besides my computer and nothing changed. My speed tests should be gigabit but are abominable even though actually downloading stuff seems fine. Screenshot_18.jpgScreenshot_19.jpgScreenshot_20.jpgScreenshot_21.jpg

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

the pictures don't seem to be showing up see here is this instead https://imgur.com/a/qLEwjEX

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

Your power levels are out of spec and you have a ton of errors. 

Remove any splitters, amplifiers, or signal attenuators from your line. 

Check your line for cheap cables, extended runs, bad/old/cheap/corroded ends and replace them. 

Preferrably move the CAX to right where the coax comes into the home and direct connect there. 

 

If that doesn't help, the ISp will need to check the line

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

Ok but last thing i want to add if it means anything, that Acquire Downstream Channel number was different before the factory reset.

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30


@justin579 wrote:

Ok but last thing i want to add if it means anything, that Acquire Downstream Channel number was different before the factory reset.


the frequencies used can change. That's sometimes where we run into issues because there will be line issues but when a user opens the "cable connections page" it might be on a good chuck of bandwidth and not look bad. But you open the logs and you see issues. You've got them on the cable connections page already. 

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

ok so the guy came and the person who set my internet up previously(contracter, not employee) screwed up and BENT the coaxial cable coming to my house and it was the reason. HOWEVER he stilll sees issues w/ noise and another guy is coming out. hopefully they don't need to tear up the ground to fix it. And i am seeing dips still as well.

 

However i just wanted to ask one more question since it seems to be fixed most of all.

 

In ping plotter i have seen like 50% packetloss but to the MODEM itself. does that mean the modem could be defective? It isn't like this all the time but still the modem is a 5 feet away from me.

right now i opened the modem page and it hit like 7% and it keeps going up. 12% right now. is this a glitch or what?

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30


@justin579 wrote:

 

 

In ping plotter i have seen like 50% packetloss but to the MODEM itself. does that mean the modem could be defective? It isn't like this all the time but still the modem is a 5 feet away from me.

right now i opened the modem page and it hit like 7% and it keeps going up. 12% right now. is this a glitch or what?


got the screen snip from this? 

 

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

I haven't paid attention and know if it is just me accessing the modem page or it gets worse when i access the modem page.Screenshot_31.jpg

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

I know your initial post didn't have any packet loss. Anything change since the inital post? 

Are you on wifi? 

Hardwired? 

Different device? 

 

 

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

nothing besides factory reseting it like twice and changing different outlets.

always on ethernet and same pc.

 

 

it seems to very slowly creep up by like .4% each time.

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

have you tried a different device?

Tried changing the cable? 

 

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

just changed the ethernet. same.

not other computers i can test it on.

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

wireless devices don't have the issue?

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

how do i find out? don't think there is ping plotter for mobile

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

I'm not sure what to tell you. 

Its tough when you're only testing on one device to determine if its a router issue or that specific device issue

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

ok i just realized the cord i used was plugged into my router that was plugged into the modem.

The router has no PL and the modem now i have no packet loss to.

 

 

EDIT: nvm now it is having PL to router and modem

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

Ok i was able to do it on my phone. same issue with packet loss.

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plemans
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

do you have ipv6 enabled?

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schumaku
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30


@justin579 wrote:

i'm having terrible packetloss on ALL devices. restarted modem, factory reset modem and still nothing. has been like that for a week. isp was useless saying it is my fault but the modem is ok. 


Don't know the relation between a traceroute to an overseas site, and where you suspect terrible packet loss. Here an ad-hoc check originating from Switzerland  - where two hops seem to add latency (from Paris to Virginia US, addign about 80 ms total ~100 ms) and then through the US (from Virginia to LA, adding about 50 ms, total  ~150 ms) and last but not least from California to Japan (LA to Tokyo, plus 100 ms or more, total ~250 ms):

 

9 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms i00mil-015-ae0x40.bb.ip-plus.net [138.187.130.31] 
10 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 193.134.95.251
11 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms ae-1.r20.mlanit02.it.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.84]
12 19 ms 22 ms 19 ms ae-10.r21.parsfr04.fr.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.188]
13 97 ms 100 ms 98 ms ae-13.r24.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.6] <<< F <-> VA, +80 ms
14 97 ms 96 ms 96 ms ae-0.r25.asbnva02.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.36]
15 149 ms 149 ms * ae-2.r25.lsanca07.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.189] <<< VA <-> CA, + 50 ms
16 263 ms 280 ms 260 ms ae-12.r31.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.192] <<< CA <-> JP, +100 ms or more
17 249 ms 248 ms 249 ms ae-3.r00.tokyjp08.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.6.129]
18 250 ms 249 ms 249 ms ce-0-8-0-1.r00.tokyjp08.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net [203.105.72.158]
19 * * * ...
20 251 ms 252 ms 251 ms 158.205.95.54
21 * * * ...
22 252 ms 251 ms 252 ms 210.140.92.180

 

Friendly reminder: ISP and carrirer backhaul routers have more important jobs to do than handle IGMP.

 

@justin579 wrote:

I unplugged everything from the modem besides my computer and nothing changed. 


There might be something wrong. But then, the ISP says the modem is OK ... and that's the CAX30, isn't it? 

 

@justin579 wrote:

My speed tests should be gigabit but are abominable even though actually downloading stuff seems fine. 


Probably Gigabit on the downstream, indeed one could expect higher numbers.

 

The amount of correctable, and much more the uncorrectables on the RF link (the cable modem part) are just ridiculous.

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

on my pc? yes. disabling it now did nothing either.

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justin579
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30

what? this part was already solved lol

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schumaku
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Re: Atrocious packetloss on CAX30


@justin579 wrote:

what? this part was already solved lol


Interesting, this was drafted and posted a longer time ago 8-/

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