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Re: Netgear Nighthawk D7000 bridge mode

shadow23
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Netgear Nighthawk D7000 bridge mode

I have been looking for answers regarding VDSL2 settings when using the D7000 in "Modem only".

 

First of all to give everyone more information, I live in Australia and we have NBN (National Broadband Network) which uses a couple of different technologies. The one I'm on is called FTTN (Fibre To The Node). And it requires a VDSL comaptible modem, which the D7000 is.

 

Since I have more than 4 wired devices attached to a network, I had to get a router with 8 gigabit ethernet ports. Now I'm aware that the D7000 can be bridged and use as a "Modem only". Here in Australia with our NBN if the modem doesn't have the right settings and you hook it up to phone line, it will automatically lock your port which means you won't get any internet access until the port has been reset.

 

So my question is when the D7000 is put in the "Modem only" mode does that automatically pick up the phone line is VDSL and not ADSL? And does the D7000 automatically adjust the settings to suit VDSL2 settings? For example the G.INP (G.998.4) and the G.vector (G.993.5) needs to be enabled so it won't lock the port. But when I place the D7000 in "Modem only", I can't even access the "Internet setup" section to make sure that it is on VDSL2 profile.

 

I really wish Netgear had more information about this subject.

 

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 
Model: D7000|Nighthawk AC1900 VDSL/ADSL Modem Router
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Re: Netgear Nighthawk D7000 bridge mode


@shadow23 wrote:
So my question is when the D7000 is put in the "Modem only" mode does that automatically pick up the phone line is VDSL and not ADSL? And does the D7000 automatically adjust the settings to suit VDSL2 settings?
 

 

I can't provide a definitive answer for the D7000 but the D6400 is also a dual ADSL/VDSL device and I can't see why Netgear should design them to be wildly different.

 

In the case of the D6400 it does detect the connection and adjust itself accordingly. I know this because mine was turned on during the ADSL/VDSL switchover and I had to do nothing to the settings you mentioned.

 

It isn't clear to me what you are trying to do. Is the idea to have the D7000 as your modem?

 

Why would you want to put the D7000 in modem only mode? Don't you want to use its router features?

 

Did you check the Netgear article on NBN?

 

What is an NBN network and is my NETGEAR DSL modem router compatible? | Answer | NETGEAR Support

 

 

Just another user.

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shadow23
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Just want to use it in bridge mode. And I took the plunge and it did detect what line I have which is VDSL. Thanks Michael. I got it working. But geez it doesn't give much option to play around with the settings in regards to tweaking it to get the highest possible MAX rate you can get on your line.

 

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@shadow23 wrote:

But geez it doesn't give much option to play around with the settings in regards to tweaking it to get the highest possible MAX rate you can get on your line.

 


 

Not sure what MAX rate means.

 

My modem connects at 61431 kbps, the rate that the ISP promises, and the download speeds, currently 57.68 Mbps, are fine.

 

 

Just another user.

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shadow23
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Netgear modems lack features where you have the option of using Stability Adjustment and Rx AGC GAIN Adjustment feature like ASUS modems have. These features can increase your downstream/upstream MAX rate which can increase your sync speeds.

 

Netgear has these features preset and locked and no way to access it, which is very disappointing.

 

For example my upstream with the ASUS modem is around 38 Mbps but with the Netgear modem i only get 32-33 Mbps. So even though Netgear modems are generally good, it just lacks extra features to be able to adjust those settings to get the maximum sync speeds you can get from your RSP.

 

I also like to add that my download speeds seem to be stuck around 93.3 Mbps and I know my data rate is 99895 kbps (MAX rate 138184 kbps). But since I can't adjust the Netgear modem settings, my MAX rate (downstream is only 104500 kbps) and maximum data rate is 96344 kbps. So really the Netgear modem can still push past the 93.3 Mbps if the features I mentioned were available.

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I guess it is down to Asus and Netgear targeting different markets.

 

Netgear specialises in network kit and goes for the mass market, where too much complexity can baffle users. Just read the simple stuff that crops up here.

 

As a maker of motherboards, graphics cards and other stuff, Asus is much more used to meeting the needs of the smaller market of people who are a bit more tech savvy.

 

I'm a long time user of Asus motherboards and am happy to dive into the BIOS to play with things. But I just want a modem that does the job. I am not interested in squeezing a per cent or two out of the speeds I get. Life's too short.

 

 

Just another user.

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shadow23
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I understand. But you mentioned you're happy to go into the BIOS and play with things. Fair enough if you are not interested with playing around with the modem settings. But just like you I like to get into things and play with the settings.

 

Like other people with their motherboards, they are not interested in going into the BIOS to play around with it. They just want one that works. For me I like to get into everything. Just like the BIOS on the mothernoards, I like getting into the modem settings and play around with it. Just like when people get into the BIOS to get the most possible performance they can get out of it.

 

I guess different strokes for different folks.

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@shadow23 wrote:

I guess different strokes for different folks.


 

Exactly. And Netgear supplies to "the play it safe" brigade. After all, it also supplies modems to ISPs, most of whom are technically incompetent. Then there is the corporate world. That demands hardware to be locked down to prevent workers from breaking stuff.

 

Out on the road I often encounter wifi with tell tale signs of coming from a Netgear source. I can't recall ever seeing an Asus device. Perhaps they have better ways of hiding the origins.

 

Another comparison is Android and iThings. Apple locks up its system so that people can't mess around whereas Android is designed so that people can break it.

 

Anyway, we seem to have wandered off topic.

 

Netgear seems to have a thriving hacker community so fiddlers can always find other ways to play games with their devices.

 

 

Just another user.

My network DM200 -> R7800 -> GS316 -> PL1000 -> Orbi RBR40 -> Orbi RBS50Y -> RBS40V
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shadow23
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@michaelkenward wrote:

 

Anyway, we seem to have wandered off topic

 

 


True. I'm using the D7000 for now and will keep the ASUS DSL-AC68R as backup.

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shadow23
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I guess this will be my last Netgear product unless Netgear supports VPN Client in the future. I can't see why Netgear would not support it for this modem router. Lucky I'm just using the D7000 in bridge mode and the ASUS RT-AC88U handles everything else.

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