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WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

SRRobirds
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WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

I recently upgraded my home wireless router from a WNDR4300 to a D7000.  In order to extend the range of our network I am attempting to use the old WNDR4300 as an access point to the new D7000.  The D7000 network works flawlessly, including a quicker internet connection.  And both the 7000 and 4300 show connection with each other.  My devices can find the 4300 network and can connect with good strength, but there is no intenet connection with the 4300.

 

I had a similar result attempting to connect a Netgear AC750 as an access point to the D7000, so it's probably the way I've configured the 7000.

 

Can someone help me with configuring an access point on my D7000?

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antinode
Guru

Re: WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

> I recently upgraded my home wireless router from a WNDR4300 to a D7000.

   Hardware versions?  WNDR4300[v1]?  WNDR4300v2?  D7000[v1]?  D7000v2?
Firmware versions?

> In order to extend the range of our network I am attempting to use the
> old WNDR4300 as an access point to the new D7000. [...]

   Ok.

> [...] both the 7000 and 4300 show connection with each other.

   I don't know what that means.  At what, exactly, are you looking, and
what, exactly, do you see there?  As usual, showing actual actions with
their actual results (error messages, LED indicators, ...) can be more
helpful than vague descriptions or interpretations.

> [...] My devices can find the 4300 network and can connect with good
> strength, [...]

   Are you talking about wireless devices?

> [...] but there is no intenet connection with the 4300.

   See "As usual, [...]", above.  What are the LAN IP addresses of all
these gizmos?

> I had a similar result attempting to connect a Netgear AC750 [...]

   "AC750" is a speed, not a model number.  Ever helpful, Netgear
product packaging emphasizes speeds like "ACxxxx", but that's not the
model identifier.  Look at the product label.     

> [...] as an access point to the D7000, so it's probably the way I've
> configured the 7000.

   No special configuration is required on the (D7000[vX]) router.  I'd
say that the problem more likely lies in the way you configured these
wireless access points, about which, the non-psychics in your audience
know nothing.

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your (actual) model number,
and look for Documentation.  Get the User Manual.  Look for "Wireless
AP" or "Use the Router as a Wireless Access Point", depending on whether
you have a WNDR4300[v1] or a WNDR4300v2.

> Can someone help me with configuring an access point on my D7000?

   That, I claim, is not where the problem lies.  You might want to
reserve (on the D7000[vX]) a LAN IP address for the WNDR4300[vX]-as-WAP,
so that you can more easily manage the WNDR4300[vX]-as-WAP from anywhere
on your LAN, but that's not required for the basic router-WAP
functionality.

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SRRobirds
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Re: WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

Thanks for the response.  As you can probably tell, I am not a tech guy - just a consumer trying to set up a broader home network using an access point.  Apologies for being incomplete.  Below are additional responses:

 

In the Netgear Genie Advanced tab for each unit under "Router Information":

D7000:

  Hardware - D7000 (nothing else; assume V1?)

  Firmware - V1.0.0.14_1.0.1

WNDR4300:

  Hardware - WNDR4300 (nothing else; assume V1?)

  Firmware - V1.0.1.34

 

Connectivity between the 7000 and 4300 is demonstrated in the in the D7000 Netgear Genie Advanced tab under "Attached Devices".  It shows the WNDR4300 as an attached device with a connection type of "wired".  The router LED on the D7000 for the ethernet connection to the WNDR4300 is blinking amber (other successful wired connection to TV box is white).  LEDs on the 4300 is amber for internet, green for 2.4 and blue for 5.  Also, when I select the 4300 WiFi options on my PC, it shows connected (to the internet) and secure.  The attached "File 1" is what I see when I selet "properties" on the WiFi option.    

 

The devices I've used to connect to the 4300 WiFi are wireless, including a PC, iPhone and iPad.  No internet connection for any of them with the 4300 WiFi options, but work perfectly with the 7000 WiFi options. 

 

The other Netgear access point I attempted was model # EX3700 (apologies for just listing the speed)

 

Can you give me more direction on your comment (again, I'm not a tech guy):  "You might want to reserve (on the D7000[vX]) a LAN IP address for the WNDR4300[vX]-as-WAP,
so that you can more easily manage the WNDR4300[vX]-as-WAP from anywhere
on your LAN, but that's not required for the basic router-WAP
functionality."

 

Thanks for any advice you can give me.  Meanwhile, I'll look again in the Netgear support for help. 

 

Scott

 

 

  

 

 

 

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antinode
Guru

Re: WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

> D7000:
>   Hardware - D7000 (nothing else; assume V1?)

   Right, no "vX" suffix implies "v1".

>   Firmware - V1.0.0.14_1.0.1

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Downloads.  (For older versions, under Firmware and Software
Downloads, look for "View Previous Versions".)  Find the kit(s).
Download the kit(s) you want.  Read the "Release Notes" file for
instructions.  Notice that for the D7000[v1], you're about 16 releases
behind what's current.

> WNDR4300:
>   Hardware - WNDR4300 (nothing else; assume V1?)
>   Firmware - V1.0.1.34

   Not much better.

> [...] The router LED on the D7000 for the ethernet connection to the
> WNDR4300 is blinking amber (other successful wired connection to TV box
> is white). [...]

   While you're at http://netgear.com/support , look for Documentation,
and get the User Manual for each router, which should reveal the
significance of the LED indicator indications.  Both of these models
offer gigabit Ethernet, so I'd expect a LAN port status LED on the D7000
to be white, if that LAN port were connected to the WAN/Internet (or any
other) port on the WNDR4300.  Unless the cable were bad.

> [...] The attached "File 1" is what I see when I selet "properties" on
> the WiFi option. [...]

   That looks plausible to me, although I would have expected to see a
Gateway address, too (perhaps "192.168.0.1" again?).

   If you point a web browser at that address, do you get to the
WNDR4300 or the D7000?  If the WNDR4300 is configured as a WAP, then I'd
expect "192.168.0.1" to lead to the main router, the D7000.

> Can you give me more direction on your comment [...]

   Sure, but it's not critical yet.  Configuring one of these routers as
a WAP changes its LAN IP address, so you won't be able to connect to its
management web site at its default address (like, say, "192.168.1.1").

   The details would depend on the WNDR4300 firmware, which might have
changed over the years/versions.  Typical recent firmware offers a
choice between (the default) "Get dynamically from existing router" and
"Enable fixed IP settings on this device (not recommended)".  With "Get
dynamically [...]", the WNDR4300-as-WAP gets its new LAN address from
the main router (D7000), so you'd need to inspect an Attached Devices
report on the D7000 to find out which address it gave to the
WNDR4300-as-WAP.  And that could change every time you restart anything.
Reserving (on the D7000) an address for the WNDR4300-as-WAP should
ensure that the WNDR4300-as-WAP always gets the same LAN address, so you
wouldn't always need to ask the D7000 where to find the WNDR4300-as-WAP.

> [...] Get the User Manual.  Look for "Wireless AP" [...]

   Did you do that?  Is that how you configured the WNDR4300?

> [...] What are the LAN IP addresses of all these gizmos?

   Still wondering.  Many things are possible, but, if the WNDR4300 were
configured as a WAP, then I'd expect the D7000 to be at (its default)
"192.168.0.1", and the WNDR4300-as-WAP to be at some other
"192.168.0.X".

   Of course, there could be firmware bugs which might prevent proper
operation even if all the gizmos were configured properly.

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Nodism1125
NETGEAR Expert

Re: WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

Hi SRRobirds,

 

Since you wanted to setup the WNDR4300 as access point to D7000 gateway router, you may follow the steps below.

 

By default the IP address for D7000: 192.168.0.1

 

- Connect the PC wired into the LAN port of the WNDR3400 router
- Visit http://www.routerlogin.com. If http://www.routerlogin.com does not work, try the following:

http://www.routerlogin.net
http://192.168.1.1

- You are prompted to enter a username and password. Enter the following default login credentials:
Note: username and password are both case sensitive.
Username: admin
Password: password

- Go to wireless settings to configure your customized settings
- Go to Advanced > Setup > Lan Setup
a. Change the IP address 192.168.0.250
b. Uncheck "Use Router as DHCP Server"
c. Click on Apply to saved the settings
- Connect the WNDR4300 router LAN port to any of LAN ports of D7000 gateway router.
- Test the internet connection both wired and wireless

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antinode
Guru

Re: WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

> [...] you may follow the steps below.

   Which would make more sense if the WNDR4300 did not have a WAP
configuration option.  And that's an incomplete procedure for such a
situation.  For a more complete procedure:

      https://community.netgear.com/t5/x/x/m-p/1463500

That's written for a C6300, but the steps are about the same for any
other router (any make/model) which lacks a one-step WAP option,  But,
as I read its User Manual, the WNDR4300 (even the "[v1]"), has such a
one-step WAP option.

Message 6 of 8
SRRobirds
Aspirant

Re: WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

Thanks to both of you for your help with this. 

 

Here's my current status:  I upgraded the firmware on the D7000.  Unfortunately after that process the D7000 could no longer recognize the DSL signal (no LED light).  Running the Genie Setup Wizard was no help since I couldn't get past the "no DSL signal" error.  However, plugging the same DSL line into the old modem it worked fine, so I connected the old modem internet output cable into the D7000 and made it an access point.  I then used an ethernet output from the D7000 and plugged it into the WNDR4300 in a remote location making the WNDR4300 an AP to the D7000.  I hope I haven't broken any tech rules, but the result is that all my devices now see the networks from each router and each WiFi connection has a fast internet connection (as fast as ADSL can get!).  This was my objective, which is now in place.

 

Thanks again for your help!

Scott  

Message 7 of 8
Nodism1125
NETGEAR Expert

Re: WNDR4300 as an access point to D7000

Hi Scott, 

 

Please check this KB article. https://kb.netgear.com/30430/How-to-resolve-flashing-DSL-or-no-light-on-DSL-LED

 

 

 

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