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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

samjones4
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6300: How to Allowlist and Blocklist MAC addresses?

Greetings!

I need to block some handheld devices from ever using the wifi.

How?

Thanks!

Message 1 of 23
Retired_Member
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

add the macs you want to have access to the Wireless Card access list or change the passphrase don't give it out is another option. You cannot make a list of blocked macs
Message 2 of 23
samjones4
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

searay wrote:
add the macs you want to have access to the Wireless Card access list


I do not see how to do this on my 6300. The only place macs are listed is on a list. There is no visible management of macs.

What am I missing?

searay wrote:
or change the passphrase don't give it out is another option.


Not useful, sorry to say!

searay wrote:
You cannot make a list of blocked macs


I can do this on other wireless hubs.

Why is netgear so limited?
Message 3 of 23
jmizoguchi
Virtuoso

Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Routers wireless setting there is mac filter/access list

If Uiu enable is ONLY listed wifi MAC address can access the wifi connection

Read manual by downloading at support.netgear.com
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Message 4 of 23
samjones4
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

>> If Uiu enable is ONLY listed wifi MAC address can access the wifi connection

I do not understand above, sorry!

I have gone through the router many times, and see nowhere to set MACs either on a whitelist or blacklist.

How to keep certain devices off the wifi?

thanks!
Message 5 of 23
jmizoguchi
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

You can not black list

MAC access list is for ONLY wifi and whitelist. If not listed in the list any other wifi device will not connect
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Message 6 of 23
Devor
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

See page 81.
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Message 7 of 23
samjones4
Luminary

Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Yes, but this is only a white list.

With tomato, I can set up certain macs as white list, .... but give them zero bandwidth, or even block them completely.

How do I keep my kids ipods off the wifi, but still allow guests go come in an use wifi?
Message 8 of 23
jmizoguchi
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Unfortunately you can not do with stock firmware.

You either look third part firmware that support this model or other subscription base such as mobicip

http://mobicip.com
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Message 9 of 23
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Warn them once. If the kids don't listen you're the parent? Act like one and take the devices away.

It's That Simple!
Message 10 of 23
Joe_
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

samjones4, it's really not a good idea to buy a router (or anything for that matter) without first knowing if it can do what you want. The router's stock firmware does not have the features you seek. You should either look for a router that has the features you want, or look for one that can use Tomato.

If you wish to pursue the matter further you should open a case with Netgear. This is a user-to-user forum only. I'm sorry, but you really won't get any further with this here.
Message 11 of 23
Devor
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

samjones4 wrote:
How do I keep my kids ipods off the wifi, but still allow guests go come in an use wifi?


Here's an idea. First, place the router in a room where you only have access. Second, place a lock on your main circuit breaker. Third, use separate WPA2-PSK [AES] passphrases on the main Network and Guest Network, something like the ones generated at GRC. Forth, moderate the passphrases.

Never allow the kids to know the main Network passphrase. The ones at GRC are nearly impossible to crack. If you trust your guests, give them the main Network passphrase and tell your guests to never share the passphrase with your kids. Put your kids on the Guest Network and when you want them to give them Internet access you turn on the Guest Network. When it's time to keep them off the Internet, you log into the router and turn off the Guest Network.

This should actually work better then blocking. The problem with blocking is that any device with open connections at the time the clock strikes the blocking hour will remain connected. This method, is literally pulling the plug on their connection. And all from the convenience of wherever you happen to be logging into the router.

The downside to this of course is that you are allowing your guests access to your main Network. But, it keeps the kids under control and besides, you do trust your guests, right? No, well then change the passphrase with a different GRC generated passphrase when they leave.

Just a thought.
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Message 12 of 23
samjones4
Luminary

Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Devor and team:

Thanks a lot for all the thinking. But it is just not the right way.

The right way is to configure the wifi router with the info (what macs to block %100, what macs to give 150kbps to, etc) and forget about it.

With tomato and other open firmwares, this is very easy to do.

Problem is: Netgear didn't give the 6300 v1 and v2 to the open firmware community, so they don't support it.
Message 13 of 23
jmizoguchi
Virtuoso

Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?


Problem is: Netgear didn't give the 6300 v1 and v2 to the open firmware community, so they don't support it.


???

http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2649

Netgear has open source for both models. I don't think Netgear has entitle to give a third party dev for Netgear which does not support in any way
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Message 14 of 23
Joe_
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

The right way is to buy something you know will do what you want.
Message 15 of 23
samjones4
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Look, I went into Fryes, needed a more stable router, they handed me the netgear 6300, and it is really great. I get wifi signal in rooms of my house that never had working wifi ever.

The R6300 firmware is feature-weak, but what it does it does well.

To clarify:

"Problem is: Netgear didn't give the 6300 v1 and v2 to the open firmware community, so they don't support it."

What I should have written is:

"Problem is: Netgear didn't give sample units of the 6300 v1 and v2 to the open firmware community (open-wrt and dd-wrt), so they can't support it because they can't run their tests." (It is common for equipment makers to send routers to the open source developers. For example, Buffalo does this with all models, and many Buffalo models come with the DD-WRT stock.)
Message 16 of 23
jmizoguchi
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Already post the URL for open source

It has publicly downloadable for both model listed

Unfortunately different manufacture acts different but open source is avaiable those third party still has access to and dev the firmware

If buffalo suit uou better than go what is the best
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Message 17 of 23
samjones4
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Solved!

Answer is: There is dd-wrt for the R6300 (however, it appears not yet for the R6300 v2).

This gives much better control than the stock firmware. I can block macs by day and time, and all kind of good stuff.
Message 18 of 23
Devor
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

That's great news and thanks for reporting back.

One final suggestion though, I would still place the router in a room where you only have access and put a lock on your main circuit breaker. I should have mentioned this before, get a UPS for the router. In one way or another, the power will undo everything you have achieved.

Just a thought.

Again, congrats on finding a solution.
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Message 19 of 23
homerjnick
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

There is a dd-wrt for the R6300v2...released Oct 14th...
Message 20 of 23
jmizoguchi
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Good luck with DD-WRT
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Message 21 of 23
juzerneem
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Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Give these devices an predefined IP address:
Advanced>Setup>LAN Setup

and then block all services allways for these IP's:
Advanced>Security>Block Services.

:cool:
Message 22 of 23
samjones4
Luminary

Re: 6300: How to whitelist and blacklist MAC addresses?

Thanks for those steps!

I have the 6300v1 working great with DDWRT. Gives me lots of control.
They will soon have DDWRT for the 6300v2 and 7000.... which rocks (since I have a v2 here also!)
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