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Im using a WNDR4500. Im not sure which version, but Netgear genei doesnt say if its any particular one so I assumed it was the first one.
Im trying to host a server from my computer that my friends can play on, and I'm trying to do this through port 25565. The internal ip of the device that the server runs off of and my friends are supposed to connect to is 192.168.1.26.
I went to the advanced setup and followed every tutorial I could find on protforawarding. You can see the port forwarding settings in the image below. Everything seems as it should be but when I go to a Open port checker and enter my external ip: 75.89.xxx.xxx, it says my port isnt opened. I then tried entering my private ip: 192.168.1.26 and that still showed no results. I've followed a couple of forums already on the topic on this site but I still couldnt find anything that would help. Please mind that I am quite new to this stuff and forgive me if I show any ignorance.
Ok I figured it out! When you mentioned a NAT Router blocking my port I did some researsh to understand what you meant. To put it in layman terms for people like me, it means that the motem box is blocking your router from connecting to the outside world. I connected to my motems network and when into its settings (Im using Windstream) and I disabled all the firewalls. The I made a new port. I took the internal IP that was belonging to my router: 192.168.254.64 and ported port 25565 using TCP/UDP. Then the port checker was displaying my port was open and my firends were able to join my server. Thank you for the kind help, and I'm sorry if I gave you any hard times!!!
> [...] every tutorial I could find on protforawarding. [...]
The non-psychics in your audience may have little idea what you could find (or where you looked).
> [...] when I go to a Open port checker and enter my external ip: > 75.89.xxx.xxx, it says my port isnt opened. I then tried entering my > private ip: 192.168.1.26 and that still showed no results. [...]
Which "a Open port checker"? To any outside-world system, an (unroutable, private) address like 192.168.1.26 would be unreachable. "75.89.xxx.xxx" is a public address, but see item 1, below.
The usual problems with this stuff are:
1. Wrong external IP address (different from the port-forwarding router's WAN/Internet IP address). (An intermediate NAT router, for example, could cause this. Or an ISP using carrier-grade NAT to conserve IPv4 addresses.)
Does the IP address of the WAN/Internet interface of your router match what you're using as your public IP address from the outside world? ADVANCED > ADVANCED Home : Internet Port : Internet IP Address
2. Bad port-forwarding rule (wrong port(s), wrong target address -- including a wandering target).
Yours looks reasonable.
How did you ensure that your game server system always has the right IP address? Static configuration? Reserved dynamic address?
3. Server not listening on the port-forwarding target system.
Can you access the server from a system on your LAN using the server's LAN IP address? If you can't access the server locally, then there may be little chance of doing it from the outside world.
If that works, then, still from a system on your LAN, try using the router's WAN/Internet IP address. That should verify the port-forwarding rule(s) (and the "NAT loopback" feature of the router).
4. External influences: ISP blocking, other firewalls, ...
The router is connected to a motem that I got from Windstream, im not sure what model it is though.
The non-psychics in your audience may have little idea what you could find (or where you looked).
I followed multiple tutorials on how to port forward for the game (Minecraft) on youtube, then I went to Reddit, then I went here. I followed around 5 or 6 forums on this website but I couldnt find anything.
Wrong external IP address (different from the port-forwarding router's WAN/Internet IP address). (An intermediate NAT router, for example, could cause this. Or an ISP using carrier-grade NAT to conserve IPv4 addresses.)
Im not sure how to check if im using the wrong external IP address. I dont have an intemediate NAT router, and I'm not sure how to check if my ISP is ussing a NAT to conserver IPV4 addresses and im not sure what that means either.
Does the IP address of the WAN/Internet interface of your router match what you're using as your public IP address from the outside world? ADVANCED > ADVANCED Home : Internet Port : Internet IP Address
When I go to advanced home I find the ip: 192.168.254.64. I thought my public ip adress was the 75.89.xxx.xxx number, so if thats so, then they are not the same. But I beleive I'm mixing something up here.
How did you ensure that your game server system always has the right IP address? Static configuration? Reserved dynamic address?
Im currently just trying to get the server to connect to others. I planned on making the IP static after I got the port opened, but if its a big deal I can try to make it static.
Can you access the server from a system on your LAN using the server's LAN IP address? If you can't access the server locally, then there may be little chance of doing it from the outside world.
Yes I can access the server on LAN with the servers LAN ip address. I can also access it with the ip address found in the advanced home menu you mentioned earlier.
External influences: ISP blocking, other firewalls, ...
When I use https://www.portchecktool.com/ it says that the website cant connect with the port dure to the conncetion timing out rather than prompting it was refused by a potential firewall or ISP block.
If it's only a modem, then it doesn't matter. If it's a modem+router, then it could be a problem. With my weak psychic powers, "im not sure what model it is" doesn't provide much useful information.
Does it have multiple LAN Ethernet ports (as a router would)?
> I followed multiple tutorials [...]
That's all very nice, but if I wanted to look at any of that stuff, how would you suggest that I find it? There are many "tutorials" "on youtube", "Reddit", and elsewhere, and my life is short. There's also the WNDR4500 User Manual.
Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look for Documentation. Get the User Manual. Look for topics like "Port Forwarding and Triggering" (and "Address Reservation").
> [...] I'm not sure how to check if my ISP is ussing a NAT to conserver > IPV4 addresses and im not sure what that means either.
If the two IP addresses don't match, then you've found the problem. If your (unspecified) "a motem" is really a modem+router, then it could be causing the problem. If it's not, then your ISP could be causing the problem.
> When I go to advanced home I find the ip: 192.168.254.64. I thought my > public ip adress was the 75.89.xxx.xxx number, so if thats so, then they > are not the same. But I beleive I'm mixing something up here.
You've found the problem, but without some actual information on your (unspecified) "a motem", it's tough to say who's causing it.
> [...] I can also access it with the ip address found in the advanced > home menu you mentioned earlier.
Then you've done the port forwarding done well enough to make it
work, except for the extra NAT router (wherever it is).
If your (unspecified) "a motem" is really a simple modem, then the only solutions I know are: 1) to ask your ISP for a real public address (for which they might charge more), or 2) to use a tunneling service like the one mentioned in another thread (near the end):
Some ISPs do not permit servers for residential customers, but I'm sure that they'll tell you that if you ask.
> Im currently just trying to get the server to connect to others. I > planned on making the IP static after I got the port opened, but if its > a big deal I can try to make it static.
"Static" means configured on the device itself. "Reserved dynamic" is configured on the router (DHCP server: ADVANCED > Setup > LAN Setup : Address Reservation). Either should do the job, but "reserved dynamic" might be easier to manage.
But first you need to make it possible for an outside-world system to get to your router. Locating the extra NAT router would be a good start.
Ok I figured it out! When you mentioned a NAT Router blocking my port I did some researsh to understand what you meant. To put it in layman terms for people like me, it means that the motem box is blocking your router from connecting to the outside world. I connected to my motems network and when into its settings (Im using Windstream) and I disabled all the firewalls. The I made a new port. I took the internal IP that was belonging to my router: 192.168.254.64 and ported port 25565 using TCP/UDP. Then the port checker was displaying my port was open and my firends were able to join my server. Thank you for the kind help, and I'm sorry if I gave you any hard times!!!
> [...] the motem box is blocking your router from connecting to the > outside world. [...]
It's still spelled "modem", and, apparently, yours is a modem+router, not a simple modem.
> The router is connected to a motem that I got from Windstream, im not > sure what model it is though.
Knowing the maker and model of that device would have been helpful in determining that.
> [...] I connected to my motems network and when into its settings (Im > using Windstream) and I disabled all the firewalls. [...]
I don't know exactly what that means, but if you still have multiple routers in your network, then you can expect more problems in the future.
Generally, you want one router. When you have two routers, you might have two ways to change that. One: Configure your modem+router as a modem only, and use the WNDR4500 as your only router. Two: Configure the WNDR4500 as a wireless access point.
Because I still know nothing about your "Windstream" modem+router, I can't say how you might configure it.
To configure the WNDR4500 as a WAP, visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your (actual) model number, and look for Documentation. Get the User Manual. Look for "AP Mode" or "access point".
> [...] I'm sorry if I gave you any hard times!!!
Answering (obvious) questions about your equipment would waste less of everyone's time.
