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Trouble using R4500 as a wireless repeater

jwikoff
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Trouble using R4500 as a wireless repeater

I am trying to setup my old Netgear R4500 router as a wireless repeater. I am having troubles.

Here's what I'm doing:
Reset the router to factory defaults
Turn router on, connected to base/main router (TPLink Archer AX6000) via ethernet.
Turn off laptop's wireless and plug my laptop ethernet into the router. It connects to the router.
Go to router settings and follow the directions in the link below.

 

https://kb.netgear.com/24108/How-do-I-configure-my-Nighthawk-router-as-a-wireless-repeater

The settings for this non-Nighthawk router all look the same.

 

I set the wireless 2.4 and 5 ghz networks to the same SSIDs as my base router.
I turn off auto channel as directed, and set it to the same as the manual channels I've set in my base router
Turn off the security as directed
Turn off the DHCP setting
Turn on wireless repeating
Set the router IP to 192.168.1.167 (it's what the main router insists on)
Enter the base router's MAC
I make sure Disable Wireless Client Association is unchecked.

I hit apply.

There is now an open/unsecured wireless network of the same name visible. But I can't connect to it. Nor do I get any internet through ethernet.

If I repeat all the steps, but leave DHCP on, I can connect. And it all works while there is ethernet between the two routers.

If I disconnect the ethernet between the base and repeater, I cannot get an internet connection, even if I reboot everything.

 

What am I doing wrong?  All the how-to's say it should grab the base router's wifi and repeat it without being connected via ethernet. If I want to hardwire the repeater to the base, there is the access point option as a separate setting, but I don't want to do that.  Also, the wifi the repeater creates is unsecured.  That's not ideal...

 

Additionally, If I disable the SSID broadcast on the repeater, I assume the visible unsecured network will go away. But then will anything connect to it wirelessly at all?

 

Model: R4500|N900 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router
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@jwikoff wrote:


Go to router settings and follow the directions in the link below.

 

https://kb.netgear.com/24108/How-do-I-configure-my-Nighthawk-router-as-a-wireless-repeater

 


I'd start with the manual for your device.

 

If you visit the support pages:

Support | NETGEAR

you can feed in the model number and find all the documentation for your hardware.

Check the section Wireless Repeating Function.


@jwikoff wrote:

Turn router on, connected to base/main router (TPLink Archer AX6000) via ethernet.

 

If you plan to use the R4500 permanently wired to the router, then you should look into how to use the device as a wireless access point.

 

How to turn an old Wi-Fi router into an access point - CNET

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antinode
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Re: Trouble using R4500 as a wireless repeater

> I'd start with the manual for your device.

 

   Normally, I'd agree.  In fact, I started to respond to this topic
yesterday with the following:

 

      I don't see where that KB article mentions the R4500 under "This
      article applies to:", so I might stick with the R4500 User Manual.

 

   Then I actually read, and tried to understand the related section of
the R4500 User Manual.  At which point I decided not to post anything
until I could make some sense out of this procedure and/or the
documentation.  (Some of us may be less easily inhibited.)

 

   Having actually looked at those documents, and tried to make some
sense of them, I concluded that the R4500 User Manual was even less
clear, and made even less sense than the KB article.  For example,
regarding Advanced > Advanced Setup > Wireless Repeating Function :
Repeater IP Address:

 

         R4500 User Manual:

 

      Repeater IP Address. If your router is the repeater, enter the
      IP address of the other access point.

 

   Huh?  "the other access point"?  _Which_ "other access point"?
"other" than _what_???  Other than the R4500-as-repeater?  Clear as mud
to me.

 

         KB 24108:

 

      5. In the Repeater IP Address field, type the IP address of the
         repeater router. This IP address must be in the same subnet as
         the base station, but different from the LAN IP address of the
         base station.

 

   As I read that KB article, you're specifying a static IP address for
the R4500-as-repeater.  Which makes some sense, at least.  (Unlike the
R4500 User Manual.)

 


> I am trying to setup my old Netgear R4500 router as a wireless
> repeater. [...]

 

   I've never done this, so I know nothing, and advice which follows is
based on reasoning, not actual experience.


> Turn router on, connected to base/main router (TPLink Archer AX6000)
> via ethernet.

 

 

   "connected" what, exactly, to what, exactly, why?  (Hint: If a device
has different types of Ethernet ports, then "connected to device" is not
enough detail.)


   For this task, I would not connect the R4500 (any port) by Ethernet
to the main router.  At best, I'd expect that to lead to a configuration
(at one or both ends) which would be inappropriate later, when the
R4500-as-repeater is connected to the main router only wirelessly.


   A computer with a web browser, connected by Ethernet to a LAN
Ethernet port on the (freshly reset) R4500, should be all you'd need to
configure the R4500 as a wireless repeater.

 

> Turn off the DHCP setting

 

   On the R4500, I'd expect the primary mode change to do that
automatically, but doing that might be harmless unless your computer
gets disconnected from the R4500 before the mode change.

 

> Turn on wireless repeating

 

   Do you mean that you opened the Advanced > Advanced Setup > Wireless
Repeating Function configuration page?  "Apply" is what actually "turns
on wireless repeating".

 

> Set the router IP to 192.168.1.167 (it's what the main router insists
> on)


   Which "the router IP [address]"?  Which router?  Which IP address?
In router mode, a router has two IP addresses, LAN and WAN/Internet.

 

   I don't know what "insists on" means here, but I'd guess that,
whatever it means, it's the result of your wired connection between the
R4500 and the main router.  (Which connection I wouldn't have.)

 

   As usual, showing actual actions (commands) with their actual results
(error messages, LED indicators, ...) can be more helpful than vague
descriptions or interpretations.

 

   Because the "Wireless Repeating Function" configuration page seems
(as I read it) to be asking you to specify a static "Repeater IP
Address" for the R4500-as-repeater, I'd start at the main router and
ensure that there's a free LAN address which is outside its DHCP pool.
For example, if the main router DHCP pool range is ".2" - ".254", then
I'd shrink it to, say, ".2" - ".249", leaving ".250" - ".254" free for
your use.  Then, when configuring the R4500, I'd specify one of those
free addresses, say, ".250" as the "Repeater IP Address".

 

 

   That's far from a complete step-by-step, but there may be some chance
that it's a better start than what you had tried before.

 

   There are still some remaining mysteries, like which MAC address to
specify when a gizmo has multiple interfaces, and hence may have
multiple MAC addresses, but, as I admitted, my expertise is limited.

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