moving from a house with fiber to the premises and need to connect my Orbi RBR50

[Chris_1000_Oaks]

I am moving house and at present I have Fiber to the premises and connect my Orbi RBR50 to an Openreach modem. In my new house. I am told that when the line is reconnected I should have a master socket so will need a modem to plug my router into. PlusNet are sending me a basic Hub1 modem/router but I dont think they are the best around and would like to buy a better modem.

Can anyone suggest the best option for me to connect my RBR50 

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> [...] Plusnet Hub1 router modem [...]

   At last, something like a model number.

> [...] the DSL port.

   With a DSL connection.  Whew.

> [...] I really need the Mesh network my Orbi provides for greater
> coverage.

   I got that.  Which takes us back to my first response.

   My quick Web search didn't find much on the Plusnet Hub1, so it's not
obvious to me whether it has a modem-only ("bridge") mode.  If not, or
if you can't find it, then, as previousy suggested, "configure the RBR50
as a wireless access point".

> When I try to search for a modem I get lots of router modems, [...]

   With my weak psychic powers, I have no idea for what you might have
searched, or what you might have found.

> [...] so was hoping to find the best modem [...]

> [...] I'd avoid any Netgear DSL modem products.

   Still true.

> [...] that supports supports dual-band Wi-Fi fast enough not to limit
> the Orbi

   I don't know what speed your ISP promises, but I would expect a DSL
connection using any modem to be the bottleneck in your network.

[antinode]

> [...] connect my Orbi RBR50 to an Openreach modem. [...]

   That tells me approximately nothing about that "modem", or how it
might have been configured.

   RBR50[v1] or RBR50v2?  Look for "Model" on the product label.
Firmware version?

> [...] I am told that when the line is reconnected I should have a
> master socket [...]

   I don't know what that means.

> [...] so will need a modem to plug my router into. [...]

   Again, a description which conveys no useful information.

> [...] PlusNet are sending me a basic Hub1 modem/router but I dont
> think they are the best around and would like to buy a better modem.

   Are you worried about the _modem_ in that modem+router, or about its
_router_?

> Can anyone suggest the best option for me to connect my RBR50

   Not I.  Not without knowing something about the gizmo to which you'd
be connecting it.

   If the "a basic Hub1 modem/router" has a modem-only ("bridge") mode,
then I'd guess that you'd be able to configure it that way, and use the
RBR50 as a router (as, I assume, you had been doing with your
(unspecified) "an Openreach modem").

   If the router section of the "a basic Hub1 modem/router" can't be
disabled/bypassed, then it should be possible to configure the RBR50 as
a wireless access point, and use the "a basic Hub1 modem/router" as your
router.

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your (actual) model number,
and look for Documentation.  Get the User Manual (at least).  Read.
Look for "Use the router as a WiFi access point".

      https://kb.netgear.com/26765

[Chris_1000_Oaks]

Hi, I should have added that I am in the UK. Here, Internet connectivity to houses is provided by Openreach, formerly a part of British Telecom, but now it's own entity now, as it not only has BT as a customer but all the other ISP's providing service in the UK.

They have now upgraded most connections to UK properties to "Fiber to the Cabinet" which serves several properties in a small area and the final stretch to the property is by copper wire.  They are geradually trying to upgrade this so that the connection is by fiber direct to each property but the roll out is slow. We were lucky to have this direct fiber connection at my present house and this terminates in a box on the wall owned by Openreach and not configurable by the house occupants. This is basically a modem and I have my Orbi plugged into this.

At my new house I have what is a conventional phone line , as I said connected by copper wire from the nearest telegraph pole and where this ccomes into the house there is a telephone socket. The one the external wire goes into is called the a Master Socket and there are usually other extenssions around the house. However it is reccomended you plug your modem/router into this Master Socket rather than one of the extensions. However my Orbi RBR50 does not have a modem in it, so this is my query, My ISP, PlusNet have provided me with their basic modem/router which should work and I think I can plug my Orbi into that with my satelite RBS50 in another part of the house to set up a mesh network.

This is perhaps where my knowledge of such things falters as I am not sure what I am doing. I have read I can turn off the wifi on a router modem but think there is no switch on the Plusnet one so it has to be disabled (not sure how).

My thought was that I could buy what is equivelent to the Openreach box, a simple modem which allows me to plug in my Orbi in and it ould function as it does now, albeit slightly slower, not being on a dedication fiber connection. 

[Chris_1000_Oaks]

I meant to add I will check out the links mentioned to see if that helps though really would like a buy off the shelf solution if possible

[antinode]

> [...] This is basically a modem [...]

   It sounds like an ONT.

> At my new house I have what is a conventional phone line , [...]

   Does that mean DSL for your data service?

> [...] PlusNet have provided me with their basic modem/router [...]

   With my weak psychic powers, I still don't know what that is.  Are
there words on it?  Like, say, a maker and/or model number?

> [...] This is perhaps where my knowledge of such things falters as I
> am not sure what I am doing. [...]

   You might start by identifying the gizmo before you, which is not
something which I can do reliably, given the distance.

> I meant to add I will check out the links mentioned to see if that
> helps though really would like a buy off the shelf solution if possible

   No matter what you buy, you might need to learn how to connect and
configure it.  The alternative is to pay someone who _can_ read to do
the work for you.  Perhaps your ISP.

[Chris_1000_Oaks]

So to clarify my problem.

I have an Orbi RBR50 at present it is plugged into a Optical Network Terminator (ONT) from the optical fibre cable from the exchange.

When I move the service will only be fibre to a cabinet supplying a group of properties with the last link by a copper wire into a phone socket into the house I will be moving into. So this is a normal connection for a telephone or connection to the internet via a modem an then my Orbi. So I basically need a modem and just want some advice on what would be suitable choice. I asked my ISP and they sent me their basic modem/router  which I could disable the wifi and plug the Orbi into, but I would prefer to buy a dedicated modem for the job.

I am not sure what I should be looking for as most offerings seem to be for a router modem. Can I connect my Orbi to phone line via a modem. My ISP supplied a filter to split the line between voice and Internet, so I  think I just need a modem to get back online when I move.

[antinode]

> So to clarify my problem.

   I wish.

> [...] So this is a normal connection for a telephone or connection to
> the internet via a modem an then my Orbi. [...]

   That sounds to me like DSL, but I'd be more confident if you said it.
Hence the previous question:

>    Does that mean DSL for your data service?

> [...] So I basically need a modem and just want some advice on what
> would be suitable choice. [...]

   As a user of a D7000, I'd avoid any Netgear DSL modem products.

> [...] I asked my ISP and they sent me their basic modem/router [...]

>    With my weak psychic powers, I still don't know what that is.  Are
> there words on it?  Like, say, a maker and/or model number?

   Still a mystery.  This whole Q&A thing often works better if every Q
gets an A.  Look for "?".

> [...] which I could disable the wifi and plug the Orbi into, but I
> would prefer to buy a dedicated modem for the job.

   "disable the wifi" is not what's wanted.  "Disable the _router_" is
what's wanted.  Whether that's possible on your unspecified "their basic
modem/router" remains a mystery.  Like everything else about it.

> [...] Can I connect my Orbi to phone line via a modem. [...]

   Treating that as a question ("?"), if you have DSL service, then a
suitable DSL modem ought to work.

> [...] My ISP supplied a filter to split the line between voice and
> Internet, [...]

   That also sounds like DSL, but I can't see your (unspecified)
"filter", either.

[Chris_1000_Oaks]

Hi, Thanks for your patience.

So I have an Orbi RBR50 and a telephone socket in my house and need a modem so I can use rthe Orbi.

My ISP are providing a Fibre service and have sent me their basic router modem that would get me on line, but I really need the Mesh network my Orbi provides for greater coverage.

I  have attached pictures of the Plusnet Hub1 router modem they sent me and the ADSL filter which goes in the telephone socket with a cable to the DSL port.

When I try to search for a modem I get lots of router modems, so was hoping to find the best modem that supports supports dual-band Wi-Fi fast enough not to limit the Orbi

[antinode · Accepted solution]

> [...] Plusnet Hub1 router modem [...]

   At last, something like a model number.

> [...] the DSL port.

   With a DSL connection.  Whew.

> [...] I really need the Mesh network my Orbi provides for greater
> coverage.

   I got that.  Which takes us back to my first response.

   My quick Web search didn't find much on the Plusnet Hub1, so it's not
obvious to me whether it has a modem-only ("bridge") mode.  If not, or
if you can't find it, then, as previousy suggested, "configure the RBR50
as a wireless access point".

> When I try to search for a modem I get lots of router modems, [...]

   With my weak psychic powers, I have no idea for what you might have
searched, or what you might have found.

> [...] so was hoping to find the best modem [...]

> [...] I'd avoid any Netgear DSL modem products.

   Still true.

> [...] that supports supports dual-band Wi-Fi fast enough not to limit
> the Orbi

   I don't know what speed your ISP promises, but I would expect a DSL
connection using any modem to be the bottleneck in your network.

[Chris_1000_Oaks]

I have bought a Draytek v166 modem so hope that works ok with My Orbi.  So will have to wait to the end of the month when we move in to see