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Blocking an Attached Device

I just picked up the new WNDR4500 and I would like to be able to block a certain device (Daughter's iPad) from attaching itself to the router when it shouldn't be (e.g., sleeptime, homework, etc.). I'm having trouble finding information on Block Services, MAC filtering... ... it would be nice if there was an option to log in to the router, see Attached Devices and have the option to block or unblock a device from that page. Any thoughts please? Thank you and best regards, L
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

lovetoflyfish wrote:
... it would be nice if there was an option to log in to the router, see Attached Devices and have the option to block or unblock a device from that page.

I've just had a look at the manual here, and it does have both Block Services and MAC Filtering like most routers. It just isn't accessible from the Attached Devices page. I suppose there would be too much data fields to fit it there. If you feel strongly about it, you could always open a case at my.netgear.com and make your request known.
Tutor
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Registered: ‎2011-10-22

Re: Blocking an Attached Device

It is under advanced / security...

This is usually where you will find these controls. I have had lot of routers and never saw security settings where the current devices are listed.

BTW, let us know how you end up doing this.

It is not so clear to me how you would schedule access from one device. The MAC filtering does not seem to have a schedule. Parental controls do not provide blocking of overall access...

R
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Thanks for chiming in. I'll look into the suggestions and see if it fits my needs. I was really looking for an easy way to block and unblock an attached device. Doing this from the list of attached devices seems like the most logical way but I may be missing something as to why it is not available on this page. I like the idea of opening a case with Netgear to see how they respond. Thanks again; I'll let you know what happens. All the best to you and yours, L
Luminary
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Registered: ‎2009-01-27

Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Opening ticket switch support will be much for you

In order to automate the schedule for devices to limits the usage is already limited by the router.


Mac filtering can control but manually have to done on daily basis.

You have to use block servie and schedule which will be single schedule with M-F

Other third party that will work is bsecure.com subscription base. It will control by the Mac address and thin client for for network layer and for iPad device, portable that can not install thin client will be in general network layer and it can blocking easily

Bescure was once used in dlink and they have departed for two years and works with any router etc and better than free LPC that Netgear offers ( netgesar.com /LPC)
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June Mizoguchi-
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

See this post.

The following was extracted from the User Manual for my own router:

Block all access to Internet browsing during a scheduled period by entering a dot (.) as the keyword, and then set a schedule in the Schedule screen.


You can specify one trusted user, which is a computer that is exempt from blocking and logging. Specify a trusted user by entering that computer’s IP address in the Trusted IP Address fields.


You should be able to find the same in your router's User Manual. Smiley Wink
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Registered: ‎2011-10-22

Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Joe - I don't see these directions in the WNDR4500 manual.

I think that this can only be done by selecting "all" in the service screen:



The problem is, you can only to this for an IP or a range of IP's...it should also be available for a MAC address, and they should make this more obvious!

R
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Yes you can but Mac address. LAN setup > address reservation
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June Mizoguchi-
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

jmizoguchi wrote:
Yes you can but Mac address. LAN setup > address reservation


But you can't do that on a schedule, jm, right?

The goal is to block access to a PC during certain hours.

R
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Think twice!!

Use address reservation within the range that you want use in block since address reservation pushes IP to the device you tell
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June Mizoguchi-
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Rhyalus wrote:
Joe - I don't see these directions in the WNDR4500 manual.

I think that this can only be done by selecting "all" in the service screen:

What I'm referring to is under Blocked Sites not Blocked Services! This router uses Netgear Genie which I'm not familiar with, but you should nevertheless find it where I indicated.
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Joe_ wrote:
What I'm referring to is under Blocked Sites not Blocked Services! This router uses Netgear Genie which I'm not familiar with, but you should nevertheless find it where I indicated.



OP want to kills the internet traffic.. OP need block service to entire ports based on schedule so OP is doing correctly
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June Mizoguchi-
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

jmizoguchi wrote:
OP want to kills the internet traffic.. OP need block service to entire ports based on schedule so OP is doing correctly

I agree that may be what the OP (i.e. lovetoflyfish) wants, but I was really addressing the other poster's query here...
Rhyalus wrote:
Joe - I don't see these directions in the WNDR4500 manual.
But you can't do that on a schedule, jm, right?

The goal is to block access to a PC during certain hours.
Luminary
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Standard block service with schedule . Shouldn't been any differences to other models
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June Mizoguchi-
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

OK, so a couple of things here.

1) My confusion stemmed from the definition of address reservation; I thought that this was simple MAC address filtering, but as jmizozguchi pointed out, all it does is force the same IP on the device every time they login. In all of my previous routers, there was simply a list of MAC id's that you could give access to or not. I miss this simple feature, by the way.

2) I did find what Joe was talking about in the manual with regards to blocking specific sites;

"In the Keyword field, enter a keyword or domain, click Add Keyword, and click Apply.
The Keyword list supports up to 32 entries. Here are some sample entries:
• Specify XXX to block http://www.badstuff.com/xxx.html.
• Specify .com if you want to allow only sites with domain suffixes such as .edu or .gov.
• Enter a period (.) to block all Internet browsing access."

So someone would use this method for internet browsing OR blocking all services to stop everything, including FTP, and instant messaging, etc. via the scheduler.

Are we all good now?

:-)

R
Luminary
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

confusing yourself too much.


This what you need to do to 100% block during the specific time you want to block.

1. find EACH mach address of devices, and under LAN setup use " address reservation" and specify the IP. ex. you will give MULTIPLE DEVICE from 192.168.1.100~192.168.1.120

2. go to block services and range the IP and specify the range like above example.

3. set the time schedule to block.


This is what you want to block JUST WEBSITE ONLY with block sites.

*.* is wild card that can block all the site or have to type specific sites but you WILL run out of list if you keep adding. Memory of the router will have some limits.

If you really want to have better way to just filter the the site and NOT to block the schedule or could be BOTH combination then you may want to look bsecure.com. it is NOT free but it will have better control over both and may found easier to deal with
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

So someone would use this method for internet browsing OR blocking all services to stop everything, including FTP, and instant messaging, etc. via the scheduler.



block services will the ONLY way to block other services.

instant message is one of service that is very hard to buy block services and bsecure services will block most of your common IM as well.
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June Mizoguchi-
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

Rhyalus wrote:

1) ...In all of my previous routers, there was simply a list of MAC id's that you could give access to or not. I miss this simple feature, by the way.

2) I did find what Joe was talking about in the manual with regards to blocking specific sites;

1) This is a basic feature. Maybe you aren't looking in the right place for it. It should be under something like Advanced>Wireless Settings.

2) Good. Choosing which method to block have differences in how it would work. You will need to determine what suits you best.
Luminary
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Re: Blocking an Attached Device

wireless access list a feature to block the wifi devices to connect at all.

what you want and what you are asking is contradicting.

I'm sure you want to daughter's device connect but to CONTROL the traffic so. I would not worried about wireless access list (mac filter for wireless) and use block services by the schedule and few block sites works within what router can function. otherwise router itself for most part by any manufacture will do the same thing.

you need to look bsecure (bsecure.com) consider for subscription base that will work ever all for wifi devices like iPad involved where there is not thin client can install like netgear parental control.

block site and IM etc is your half of battle if you want to have good control because you will have continuous issues.
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