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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

CDStoneley
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New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

Long time ReadyNAS NV+ owner, just recently purchased a RN314 (used) and EDA500. Right now I have 4 x WD40EFRX in each chassis.

 

Having just received new 4 x WD40EFRX for the EDA500 today, I installed them (have to love the new screwless tray design!) and went about creating a new RAID10 volume, in addition to the existing RAID10 volume on the RN314 - so I will ultimately have two RAID10 volumes. 

 

The volume resync is currently crawling along on the EDA500 - 0.15% complete, remaining time is 2558:50:32.

 

Did I do something wrong in setup? These were new, shrinkwrapped drives...

 

Firmware is version 6.6.1

Model: EDA500|ReadyNAS Expansion Chassis 5-Bay,RN31400|ReadyNAS 300 Series 4-Bay
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CDStoneley
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

Wed Jun 7 2017 2:38:21 Volume: Volume ReadyNAS500 is resynced.
...  
Wed May 31 2017 15:57:24 Volume: Resyncing started for Volume ReadyNAS500.

 

It finished. Eventually. The above can serve as a data point for 4 x 4TB drives, RAID 10 configuration, EDA500, on 6.6.1.

 

Thanks for those who suggested patience!

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Model: EDA500|ReadyNAS Expansion Chassis 5-Bay,RN31400|ReadyNAS 300 Series 4-Bay
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CDStoneley
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

If this is normal, can someone let me know?

 

Overnight, some 12 hours later, and we've made it to 2.97% complete, 639:43:55 left to run...

 

This is not XRaid - just RAID10 - on firmware 6.6.1

 

Help!

Model: EDA500|ReadyNAS Expansion Chassis 5-Bay,RN31400|ReadyNAS 300 Series 4-Bay
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Laserbait
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

I wish I could help you, as I just bought my 1st EDA500, but I do not have my drives yet.  Can you tell my why you went with RAID10 over RAID5?

 

I can tell you that it took ~23 hours to to build my RAID5 (XRAID) on my RN316 running FW 6.6.1 with 6x4TB Seagate ST4000DM000 drives.

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CDStoneley
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

Raid 5 can only tolerate one drive failure. If a second drive fails while you are rebuilding your raid5 array, you're toast. It's happened to me. My previous generation Seagates (ST2000DL003) dropped like dominos within days of each other on my readynas NV+.

Lesson learned.
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StephenB
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

If maximizing fault tolerance is the only goal, then RAID-6 is the best option.  RAID-10 doesn't handle all combinations of 2-disk failures.

 

Resync speed on the EDA is likely limited by the eSATA connection between the NAS and the EDA.

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Laserbait
Luminary

Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

I wish the RN31x series had some sort of SSD caching to offset the performance penalty of RAID6 though.  How goes the rebuild?

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CDStoneley
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

Appreciate the input, but performance was also a concern.

If the limitation is the eSata link, could I build the volume in the 314 then move all the disks to the EDA500?
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Sandshark
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times


@CDStoneley wrote:
Appreciate the input, but performance was also a concern.

If the limitation is the eSata link, could I build the volume in the 314 then move all the disks to the EDA500?

 

Unfortunately, you can't destroy the volume while it is re-syncing.  And if you just power down and remove the drives from the EDA500, there will be reminents of the EDA array in the configuration, and that could come back to haunt you.  (I did have such a phantom, and it caused a big problem with the upgrade to 6.7.3.)

 

Maybe you can remove a drive from the array and make it crash and that will let you destroy it.  Otherwise, you'd need to completely start over with the NAS as well as the EDA500 arrays to do that.

 

If you were starting fresh, I think there is a way to use the volume export feature to do what you want.  But in the long run, the process would likely take at least as long as your current resync.  And while you were doing it, you wouldn't have access to anything in the main array because it would be removed,

 

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CDStoneley
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

48 hours in, and I'm at 9.86%.

 

I'm at a loss. I cant believe this is normal....

 

I'll try my luck with Support on Monday.

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Sandshark
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

I've only gone with RAID5 on my EDA500, but the times were not even remotely similar to yours.  It's hard for me to believe that RAID10 makes that much difference.  Yes, it takes more writes for RAID10, but not that many.  I think calling support is a good idea.  But I'm also wondering if something might be wrong with one of the drives.  Hope you get it ironed out.

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StephenB
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times


@Sandshark wrote:

 But I'm also wondering if something might be wrong with one of the drives.  Hope you get it ironed out.


Perhaps download the logs, and look at the smart stats.

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hmuessig
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

For what it is worth my EDA500 with three 4TB drives took four days (96 hours) to resync/build. And the time estimates 'till completion improved significantly as it progressed. Have patience!

 

Also at some point -- if I recall at about 50% -- you should be able to look at the SMART stats for each drive in the array. But with a 314 the responsiveness of the management interface will be sloooow.

 

 

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CDStoneley
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

Wed Jun 7 2017 2:38:21 Volume: Volume ReadyNAS500 is resynced.
...  
Wed May 31 2017 15:57:24 Volume: Resyncing started for Volume ReadyNAS500.

 

It finished. Eventually. The above can serve as a data point for 4 x 4TB drives, RAID 10 configuration, EDA500, on 6.6.1.

 

Thanks for those who suggested patience!

Model: EDA500|ReadyNAS Expansion Chassis 5-Bay,RN31400|ReadyNAS 300 Series 4-Bay
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Laserbait
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

Another data point to those that are reading this in the future, I did some testing with my RN316 on OS 6.7.5:

EDA500 with 5x 4TB Seagate ST4000DM000 in RAID5 resync took ~41 hours.

EDA500 with 5x 4TB Seagate ST4000DM000 in RAID6 resync took ~44 hours.

 

 

I'm also going to try 4x 4TB Seagate ST4000DM000 in RAID10, just to see how long that takes.

 

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Laserbait
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Re: New RN314 / EDA500 Owner concerned about Resync times

RAID 10 with 4 x 4TB ST4000DM000 in the EDA500 took ~34 hours

 

 

 

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