Hi I'm getting confused - are the above basically the same model or are they different in some way?
In the UK only the "RNDP6000-200EUS" seems to be generally available...I'm hoping that this is basically the ReadyNAS Pro 6 diskless with the Intel multicore 2.8GHz processor?
Is the "EUS" bit just referring to the fact that it's for the UK or Europe perhaps?
Jasooooo, I don't know that this is the one you are looking for - be careful. The RNDP6000-200EUS is I think the old PRO business edition. The new one should be the Readynas Pro 6 and sold as RNDP6310-200. I don't think there is a diskless version available in the UK as there is for the old PRO BE.
I may be wrong but the price of the RNDP6000-200EUS suggests it is EOL.
Well - I think I am actually wrong - and now also very angry. I have just bought an Ultra 6 plus for £725, I now see I could have bought a pro 6 with much faster processor and longer warranty for £15 more from the same online store (Kikatek) This is very strange - according to a few stores I have checked I can buy a pro 6 diskless RNDP6000-200EUS for around £800, a 3x1TB version RNDP6310-200EUS costs around £1250. There has to be a problem with the diskless unit being the old model or 3x1TB drives are adding £450 to the price which is absurd. What is going on with Netgear's pricing here - ripping off home users, or is this a problem with resellers not identifying products correctly. I assumed the Pro 6 would be significantly more expensive so didn't even look at it - my fault I suppose, but the price point of the 2 products is almost identical.
Can anyone from Netgear clarify what is going on here?
I think the old model "Pro Business Edition" is the 100EUS - that's what I've read on these forums anyway (happy for someone to correct me if I'm wrong of course).
vandermerwe: I almost bought an Ultra 6 Plus too - I've been waiting for it to be in stock in the UK for months now - then noticed just before I bought it that the new Pro 6 was only a few £ more. The pricing is indeed slightly odd.
Is there any way you can return your U6P?
Which stores are you looking at for the prices (not sure if we're allowed to talk about stores on here so PM me if you want).
The RNDP6000-100 was the Pro Business Edition. The 200 indicates the 2nd generation of the product. NetGear does it with there other products e.g. the GS108Tv2 switch is the GS108T-200.
The Ultra 6 Plus is the RNDP600U-200. Note the U in the name. It's also a second generation product as the first gen of this was the Pro Pioneer RNDP600E.
The 2 and 4-bay Ultras and Pros and the Ultra 6 (not Plus) are first gen products using Atom CPUs so they have -100 at the end of the model number, before the region identifier.
There's no problem mentioning the store you purchased your NAS from or where you're considering purchasing from. But if you say worked for or had some other interest in a reseller and went around spamming, by promoting it in lots of posts then that would be a problem.
Of course you-dah is correct, however Netgear does control product information on their website. The information provided does not list a diskless Pro 6 unit on either the uk nor USA site. Netgear should also be concerned about customer satisfaction. The situation where 1 lesser product costs as much as a better product with longer warranty will lead to unhappy customers like myself, particularily when it was so difficult to be aware of the alternative,better product. The prices for the populated units are disproportionately high (3x1tb unit effectively adds 450 pounds for the disks. It's therefore only on these forums that I discovered the existence of the diskless unit, and too late. I can't return the ultra 6 plus without incurring a 15% restocking fee as I purchased it 4 weeks ago. The store I'm looking at is Kikatek
I think the Pro 6 Diskless may have only appeared within the last month or two (can't remember exactly when). I do agree they should have listed it on their site by now.
The semi-populated and fully-populated Pro 6 units do have enterprise disks installed, but even then you do pay a premium for NetGear to install the disks for you. Those who have the skills and time to do it themselves would of course prefer diskless units
I guess you have to decide whether paying the stocking fee + a little extra is worth it to get 2 years extra warranty, business features and the faster CPU (Ultra 6 Plus has same CPU as Pro Business Edition had).
Edit: I think the Pro 6 Diskless was released early April or somewhere close to that. It probably became available around the time you purchased the Ultra 6 Plus.
I'm going to have to keep the Ultra 6 plus- I don't think it's worth the extra cash and hassle. It's just not quite as future proof as the pro 6 would have been
I'm going to have to keep the Ultra 6 plus- ... ... It's just not quite as future proof as the pro 6 would have been
On that I would disagree. It has the exact same firmware and will support the same disks. The only current production models that are not as future proof as the Pro 6 are the sparc based units. For example if you have bought one of the very early ReadyNAS units such as the 600A, while parts are difficult to find (out of production for about 5 years or so), it can still be upgraded to the current firmware (4.1.7 in that line) and should support the same disks as in an NV+.
The major differences are the shorter warranty, the lack of business related features and a slightly slower CPU. If you are using it as a file server and media streaming device, the latter item will not affect you at all, since it is still capable of saturating a Gigabit Network connection at it peak MB/s file transfer speed. (100+).
Well not exactly- look at the hcl. The disk compatibility list is not identical between U6P and Pro6 Media transcoding? Perhaps future add-ons might need that little extra processing power. I don't know, that's why I would have wanted to get the fastest unit for my money.
Yes, the -200 indicates it's the second gen. I believe the CPU is the 2.6Ghz one, but it should be easy to check when you get your unit in the logs or via SSH (if you're comfortable with that)
I having a hard time locating online retailers offering the -200's.
To add to the confusion, some sites will return results that are NOT exactly what you specified but fail to give the exact model number of what they are selling.
Changing model numbers simply by changing a -100 to a -100 might look good on paper, but in the real world adds to confusion.
Also, the CPU specs link has a comment that indicates that the info may not be 100% correct. Why doesn't Netgear just post a verified list?
While I can understand European vendors not including the EUS as not all U.S. vendors include the NAS, but all should include the full model number somewhere in their specs. If they use the name Pro Business Edition or Pro Pioneer, then they are the -100 models. If they use the term Pro 6, then is is the -200 model. The -100 model ceased production before the the -200 hit the supply chain.
I just looked at three major U.S. on line retailers (Newegg, Amazon and eAegis) and all three list the full model number.
Also, the CPU specs link has a comment that indicates that the info may not be 100% correct.
That list was written by one of our fellow users, not NetGear so he felt it was appropriate to mention that the list may not be 100% correct (I believe it is currently 100% correct and he does try to keep it up to date).
NetDelta wrote:
Why doesn't Netgear just post a verified list?
They can change components used in NAS units. For most users performance figures are going to be more important to see than the model number of the CPU that is included.
I believe it was initially mistakenly advertised as 2.8Ghz.
You can see a good summary of the CPUs used in various ReadyNAS models here: CPU Specs of the ReadyNAS
Actually this summary is probably outdated. At the time it was published, the RNDP6000 available was the v1. Its product code (not mentioned in the article) was RNDP6000-100xxx (xxx being the code describing the power supply used, depending on the region the NAS is sold in (EUS in Europe, NAS in N-Am.). A new model have been recently launched and we have now available in the stores the RNDP6000-200xxx : the second version of the ReadyNAS Pro. Note that some shop could still sell the first version.
The version 1 and the version 2 have different processors. The Netgear PDF lists an un-named "2.66GHz Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor" for the RNDP6000-200xxx. (But Netgears PDFs have been known to have typos in them ;-))
So, 2.8GHz or 2.66GHz? We'll have to wait for someone to telnet a RNDP6000-200xxx to know for sure.
