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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

jaholstein
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ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

Hello

ReadyNAS 104 [firmware 6.8.0]

I can access the device on 192.168.1.10 just fine as ADMIN.

I can see all the SHARES and drill down through them.

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When I press "Check for Updates" I get "Operation time out, Communication error, Check your Internet connection, DNS Settings or proxy settings"

When I check time settings and put in 132.163.96.5 I get "failed to set NTP settings. NTP server is untrachable"

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For some reason the NAS in not getting to the internet.

I have 3 laptop / desktop / smartphone that are able to get to the internet.

I can get to my ATT Router [Arris BGW210-700], ran diagnostics and all passed.

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Please someone give me a Christmas Suggestion

Answer me like I'm in 2nd grade please [actually 74].

Thanks, Jim-Near-StLouis

 

FYI my PLEX media server can't find the NAS either if that helps out your answer.

FYI: on the netgear log I found this ONLY entry with NTP. I don't know how to enable and the Netgear factory NTP values have disappeared.

Sat Dec 17 2022 18:28:22
 
System: NTP is disabled.
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Sandshark
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

I suspect that while the DHCP address range included .10, your son did one other thing you didn't realize -- changed the NAS to use a static address that was previously assigned by DHCP.  Step one is to enable DHCP on the NAS.  Then, if you want the NAS IP address to remain the same (and you really should), reserve the address in the router instead of setting the NAS to use a static one.

 

If you have no choice other than to use a static address, then leave the second LAN port set to DHCP, and you can always change the cable over to re-gain access if something happens (like changing the router to one that uses a different address range), you can swap the cable and re-gain access (at a new DHCP address you can find on the display or in RAIDar)..

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StephenB
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates


@jaholstein wrote:

Hello

ReadyNAS 104 [firmware 6.8.0]

I can access the device on 192.168.1.10 just fine as ADMIN.

I can see all the SHARES and drill down through them.

--

When I press "Check for Updates" I get "Operation time out, Communication error, Check your Internet connection, DNS Settings or proxy settings"

When I check time settings and put in 132.163.96.5 I get "failed to set NTP settings. NTP server is untrachable"

Are you using DHCP to assign the NAS an IP address?  Or did you create a static IP address?

 

FWIW, you might consider using 0.us.pool.ntp.org and 1.us.pool.ntp.org for NTP (or similar pool.ntp.org addresses for your geography).

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jaholstein
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

THANKS so much for replying

1) I'm letting the system assign 192.168.1.10 to the NAS [it has remained that ## for ever]
    The DHCP start address is 192.168.1.64 so the 1.10 just stays there.

2) I used both NTP values youi suggested and get the same error

jaholstein_0-1671757833321.png

If you want screen shots from my ATT router - let me know.

That's where I think the problem is - the NAS is unreachable OUT or INTERNALLY by the ROKU/PLEX application. yet I can file-manage the NAS from anywhere else on the home network. Really confusing me.  Thanks.

 

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StephenB
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates


@jaholstein wrote:

THANKS so much for replying

1) I'm letting the system assign 192.168.1.10 to the NAS [it has remained that ## for ever]
    The DHCP start address is 192.168.1.64 so the 1.10 just stays there.

2) I used both NTP values youi suggested and get the same error

 

If you want screen shots from my ATT router - let me know.

That's where I think the problem is - the NAS is unreachable OUT or INTERNALLY by the ROKU/PLEX application. yet I 

 


It does sound like the router might be preventing the NAS from reaching the internet.

 

Have you tried rebooting the NAS and the router?

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jaholstein
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

Good Morning-

I rebooted the NAS and the ATT Router.

Getting same connection errors.

 

I'm going to paste some relevant information from the Router:

Here is the Router's info on the NAS

MAC AddressIPv4 Address / NameLast ActivityStatusAllocationConnection TypeMesh Client

28:c6:8e:35:3f:c8
192.168.1.10 / unknown28c68e353fc8
Fri Dec 23 09:09:37 2022
on
static
Ethernet LAN-4
No

 

And the

Firewall Status

Packet FilterIP PassthroughNAT Default ServerFirewall Advanced
On
Off
Off
On

 

No NAT/GAMING

No Packet Filters

No Public Subnet Hosts

IP Passthrough is OFF

 

Firewall Advanced

 
Drop incoming ICMP Echo requests to LAN Off 
Drop incoming ICMP Echo requests to Device LAN Address  On 
Drop incoming ICMP Echo requests to Device WAN Address   On 
ESP Header Forwarding  Off    
Authentication Header Forwarding   Off  
Reflexive ACL On      
ESP ALG   Off    
SIP ALG   On      

 

Does any of this help you?

Thanks AGAIN for your consideration.

Jim

 

The troubleshooter on the router shows all services PASS

I'm also trying to contact ATT tech for some NetOp help.
As soon as I get this resolved I'll reply here.

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StephenB
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

Does the AT&T router have an IPv4 WAN address?

 

If it does, you might try disabling ipv6 on the NAS, and rebooting it.

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Sandshark
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates


@jaholstein wrote:

THANKS so much for replying

1) I'm letting the system assign 192.168.1.10 to the NAS [it has remained that ## for ever]
    The DHCP start address is 192.168.1.64 so the 1.10 just stays there.

 


Those statements are self-contradictory.  "Letting the system assign an address" would result in an address in the DHCP range, which is not the case.  You have either assigned a fixed address within the router (which doesn't usually result in this issue) or you have set a static IP in the NAS (which will have this result if you failed to properly set the gateway address).

 

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StephenB
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@Sandshark wrote:
Those statements are self-contradictory.  "Letting the system assign an address" would result in an address in the DHCP range, which is not the case.  You have either assigned a fixed address within the router (which doesn't usually result in this issue) or you have set a static IP in the NAS (which will have this result if you failed to properly set the gateway address).

 


This depends on the router.  My Orbi has the DHCP range set to 100...254, and I reserve addresses in the 2 ... 99 range.

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Sandshark
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Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates


@StephenB wrote:

@Sandshark wrote:
Those statements are self-contradictory.  "Letting the system assign an address" would result in an address in the DHCP range, which is not the case.  You have either assigned a fixed address within the router (which doesn't usually result in this issue) or you have set a static IP in the NAS (which will have this result if you failed to properly set the gateway address).

 


This depends on the router.  My Orbi has the DHCP range set to 100...254, and I reserve addresses in the 2 ... 99 range.


Yes, but you are not "letting the system assign an address", you are specifying to the router what address to assign (the first possibility I listed above).

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jaholstein
Guide

Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

@Sandshark @StephenB 
No - my statement is not [really] contradictory, here's what I think happened: 

Previously the DHCP range was 10-253 during that time 192.168.1.10 was assigned
Later the DHCP range was set to the current value of 64-253 [my son did it -- and he's dead]

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All of my devices can file view/manage the NAS on the wired or WiFi connection.

However the NAS

  1. cannot get to the internet to check for updates or set the NTP server
  2. cannot be "seen" by the PLEX server running on my ROKU
  3. cannot be "seen" on the PLEX WebApp running on my old-reliable Win7Pro
    http://192.168.1.65:32400/web/index.html#!/

I thought the AT&T router might be the problem.
Today first level support was courteous but of no help.

  - she had me add IP Passthrough to the NAS MAC address - didn't help - I removed

  - she had me change my Network setting from PUBLIC to HOME - didn't help 

I'm awaiting 2nd level support.

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I can't find any Win7Pro firewall in or out that refers to the NAS

The default is 192.168.1.1 to .199 all profiles, Allowed, any program

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So thanks both of you for responding.

Do you have any ideas?

Jim-near-StLouis,Mo

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jaholstein
Guide

Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

@StephenB  @Sandshark 

Does the AT&T router have an IPv4 WAN address?

    Yes 192.168.1.254

If it does, you might try disabling ipv6 on the NAS, and rebooting it.

    How do I do that?

    IPV6 is disabled on the AT&T Router. Is that what you meant to type?

 

Thanks for sticking with me.. Jim

 

If this helps - here is a LOG error that I got, further illustrating the NAS -> Internet communication problem

 

Fri Dec 23 2022 10:07:40
System: Alert message failed to send.
Fri Dec 23 2022 10:07:40

System: The system is rebooting.

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StephenB
Guru

Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates


@jaholstein wrote:

Does the AT&T router have an IPv4 WAN address?

 


That would be the AT&T router's IPv4 LAN address - only reachable on your home network.  Still, if IPv6 is disabled on the router, it is using IPv4 over the internet.

 


@jaholstein wrote:

 

If it does, you might try disabling ipv6 on the NAS, and rebooting it.

    How do I do that?

    IPV6 is disabled on the AT&T Router. Is that what you meant to type?

 


I meant the NAS.   

 

Log into the admin web ui for the NAS, and go to the networks page.  Click on the settings wheel for eth0 (if it is gray, then click on the settings wheel for eth1).

 

You should now see a pop-up window.  Select the ipv6 tab, and you will see a pull-down that includes "disable".

 

Next select the ipv4 tab, and make sure it says "using DHCP" - not static.

 

Then reboot.

 

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jaholstein
Guide

Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

@StephenB @Sandshark 

the network shows 2 cards, but BOND 0

When I change from static to DHCP I get a warning [screenshot attached]

Please advise if this is normal and I should say OKAY.

Thanks, Jim

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StephenB
Guru

Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates


@jaholstein wrote:

@StephenB @Sandshark 

the network shows 2 cards, but BOND 0

When I change from static to DHCP I get a warning [screenshot attached]

Please advise if this is normal and I should say OKAY.

 


You aren't disabling the network interface, so this is ok.

 

There isn't much benefit in bonding (Link aggregation) - I suggest that you also disable that.  Start by just removing the second ethernet connection (assuming it is still connected).  The you can change the configuration. We can talk about how later on.

 

Note that earlier you said the AT&T router LAN address was 192.168.1.254.  Your NAS is configured to 192.168.1.1.  That could be the source of your problem. After you switch to DHCP, take a look at the router address again, and see if it changes.

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Sandshark
Sensei

Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

I suspect that while the DHCP address range included .10, your son did one other thing you didn't realize -- changed the NAS to use a static address that was previously assigned by DHCP.  Step one is to enable DHCP on the NAS.  Then, if you want the NAS IP address to remain the same (and you really should), reserve the address in the router instead of setting the NAS to use a static one.

 

If you have no choice other than to use a static address, then leave the second LAN port set to DHCP, and you can always change the cable over to re-gain access if something happens (like changing the router to one that uses a different address range), you can swap the cable and re-gain access (at a new DHCP address you can find on the display or in RAIDar)..

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jaholstein
Guide

Re: ReadyNAS 104 [6.8.0] Communication error to NTP & Updates

@Sandshark  @StephenB 

 

Well that helped.  THANKS GUYS

I was able to get the Update to 6.10.8 and update the time to 0.us.pool.ntp.org

I have the NAS on DHCP and the 192.168.1.10 fixed in the router

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I am stuck on the PLEX not claiming the server

I think the Netgear NAS 104 problem is RESOLVED. 

Thanks so much for your help.

 

I will post something on "PLEX on NAS" community.

Maybe I'll get a Christmas Present from a similar super-user.

Blessings, Jim

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