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Re: QOS and connection benchmark

PapaLung
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QOS and connection benchmark

How do I get rid of the gigantic upload spike?
MY EQUIPMENT
ISP: Comcast/Xfinity 1.2 gbps down, 42 gbps up cable internet
Modem: XB8 (Technicolor, model CGM4981COM )
Router: Netgear Nighthawk XR1000 1.0.0.64_1.0.49
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FURRYe38
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Re: QOS and connection benchmark

If thats happening across two different modems then this may not be something that can be adjusted. Possible the ping testing is loading up and finding it higher as the test begins and as the test continues it lowers and levels off. your getting A+ so that's nothing to worry about. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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Re: QOS and connection benchmark


@PapaLung wrote:
How do I get rid of the gigantic upload spike?

You could start by explaining what you are doing, and, more important, what Netgear device(s) you own.

 

You can help people to help you by providing the information suggested in this forum's header:

 


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They are there for a good reason.

 

 

Just another user with a set of boilerplate macros.

My network DM200 -> MK93; R7800 -> GS316 -> PL1000 -> R7000P
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

What model XR router do you have? 

What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?
Be sure your using a good quality LAN cable between the modem and router. CAT6 is recommended. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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PapaLung
Apprentice

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

I'm using an XR1000 w the current firmware version 1.0.0.0.64_1.0.49. Was using a Netgear nighthawk CM2050V and just switched it out to an Xfinity XB8-t and am getting the same results on my connection benchmark test in regards to the jump in upload latency. CAT 6 wires from modem to router and router to pc. Current router is in bridge mode as well. I've tried adjusting the congestion control some and even downloaded ping plotter but I honestly don't understand how ping plotter even works or how to take the information I get from it and apply it to the congestion control. From what I've read, adjusting the congestion control should level out the spikes in latency , but again, I'm not going to pretend I fully understand it.
MY EQUIPMENT
ISP: Comcast/Xfinity 1.2 gbps down, 42 gbps up cable internet
Modem: XB8 (Technicolor, model CGM4981COM )
Router: Netgear Nighthawk XR1000 1.0.0.64_1.0.49
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

If thats happening across two different modems then this may not be something that can be adjusted. Possible the ping testing is loading up and finding it higher as the test begins and as the test continues it lowers and levels off. your getting A+ so that's nothing to worry about. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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PapaLung
Apprentice

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

Thank you!!!!
MY EQUIPMENT
ISP: Comcast/Xfinity 1.2 gbps down, 42 gbps up cable internet
Modem: XB8 (Technicolor, model CGM4981COM )
Router: Netgear Nighthawk XR1000 1.0.0.64_1.0.49
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

I have a XR1000 arriving and will check this on mine. 😉

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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Netduma-Fraser
NetDuma Partner

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

As you mentioned, adjusting Congestion Control will resolve the spike and latency there, if the Ping Under Load graph doesn't change then I would recommend saturating your connection with downloads, streams etc and with Always set on Congestion Control experiment with the percentages while following this guide for PingPlotter https://support.netduma.com/en/support/solutions/articles/16000074717-how-to-test-your-internet-ping
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

After I got my XR1000 set up yesterday I saw similar on mine. Seems to spike at the beginning of the test then drop off. I just presume this normal at the beginning of the test and a load up of data then levels off as the test continues. 

I left my router at v.52 that came loaded on it. 

I'll post pictures later of what mine showed. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

Heres my XR1000 v.52 connected to a CAX80 in modem mode.

With QoS enabled:

XR10001stConnTestCAX80ModemModeQosEnabled.pngXR1000_2ndConnTestCAX80ModemModeQosEnabled.png

With QoS disabled:

XR10001stConnTestCAX80ModemModeQosDisabled.pngXR1000_2ndConnTestCAX80ModemModeQosDisabled.png

Seems like there was some delay in getting the 1st speed up to par after the router rebooted and was back to ready, as why I did a 2nd test.

 

WIred speed results on Windows 10x64:

XR1000XCAX80ModemModeOver900Mpbs.png

 

After testing, configured XR for 192.168.0.1 and .100 to .150 DCHP IP address pool. 

Disable WiFi and connected a Orbi 8 series in AP Mode. 

 

 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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PapaLung
Apprentice

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

"After testing, configured XR for 192.168.0.1 and .100 to .150 DCHP IP address pool.

Disable WiFi and connected a Orbi 8 series in AP Mode. "

Could you explain why you changed the ip? I'm still learning all the ip, dhcp,dns ect. talk and what these things actually do and what you can/can't and should do for a better connection.

MY EQUIPMENT
ISP: Comcast/Xfinity 1.2 gbps down, 42 gbps up cable internet
Modem: XB8 (Technicolor, model CGM4981COM )
Router: Netgear Nighthawk XR1000 1.0.0.64_1.0.49
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: QOS and connection benchmark

I change to a different IP address for the LAN side is all. Been using 0.1 for years since on of my first routers I got was defaulted for that. NG and others default to .1.1 on there's however users can change to something different. 

 

Also the range is always maxed out however in most cases users don't have 250 devices all connected to one router and you can't reserve IP addresses that high so the range I set for my needs is .100 to .150 as I only have about 30 devices connected at one time. Leaves room for some reservations and static IP addressed devices on either side of this pool, printers and such that don't need much or any router management. 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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