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No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
Yeah, as a test I took off the Win10 Insider build and reverted back to my backup image containing 20H1. That one had the really old Intel driver.
Then I ran the update to get 21H1 but it didn't change the driver. I also told it to load the optional 21H1 update update, still no new driver.
So I went into Device Manager, opened the AX210 entry and told it to go to Windows Update to look for a new driver. That finally loaded the 22.50 driver and I could connect to the 6GHz band.
Sadly, once I changed the 6GHz band to WPA3 the network disappeared. So it still requires Enhanced Open for the security setting and the expected change to 21H1 that we thought would include the necessary pieces to support WPA3 must not have made the public build.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
Nice , right? Nope. Nothing changed. I still dont see the 6E. Ha... fun and games.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
Curiouser and couriouser......I went back and looked at your earlier posts and noted the talk about the registry hack. With the Insider build I was able to remove those keys and I could still connect. Realizing that the old backup image that I restored probably had the hack I went and looked. Sure enough it was there in both keys with a value of 1. I changed them to 0 and rebooted.
The 6GHz band disappeared.
So clearly the Windows Insider builds have the support built in and the public 21H1+ does not. It looks like Microsoft bailed out and removed it from the public release.
Put the key back in and see what happens.
If that still doesn't work then I'd suspect that your AX210 card has an issue. Because you can't buy these cards directly from known Intel wholesalers there are some sketchy things going on with them. I've seen a number of people with certain "brands" say they could never get them to work on the 6GHz band. This was a few months ago so I'd hoped this had all been worked out, but maybe not.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
After installing this new RAXE500, I’m STILL getting well over 650mbps coming into the router but now I can’t even break 100mbps coming out of the router (2.4ghz band) but I can squeeze upwards of around 350-400 mbps on the 5ghz Band!
I’m no Stranger to routers and networking and have ALWAYS used Netgear, because I KNOW Netgear, and they have always treated me well.
But I can’t figure out this Drop in signal!
After trying all the “Tweeks” I know to do, it’s still slow as molasses!
I called Geek Squad, and they’re sending me a Replacement Router, so we’ll see if I just got a Lemon or I’m missing something in setup!
I’ve set up so many Netgear routers I can do it in my sleep… But maybe this new 6E band crap has some settings I’m not familiar with….
Any Ideas? Anyone else run across this DRASTIC Signal Drop after installing this thing?
Any comments, advice etc would be deeply appreciated!!!
Thank you!!!
Harry
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
What device are you using to test speeds?
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
@HarrySmooth wrote:
I just bought a new NETGEAR Nighthawk RAXE500, to replace my Nighthawk AX8 ,RAX80 which just stopped working! I am on Spectrums Highest Speed Internet available here, and was getting around 550-650mbps coming into the router, and USED to get anywhere from 400-550mbps on the Download Side coming out of the Router on the 2.4ghz Band.
After installing this new RAXE500, I’m STILL getting well over 650mbps coming into the router but now I can’t even break 100mbps coming out of the router (2.4ghz band) but I can squeeze upwards of around 350-400 mbps on the 5ghz Band!
Any comments, advice etc would be deeply appreciated!!!
Thank you!!!
Harry
I've never once seen a 2.4ghz device hit 400-550mbps. Not even under optimal conditions. 2.4ghz is a much slower network and is more sensitive to interference. But it does broadcast further and through more materials. The 100mbps is more in-line with what I'd expect as well as what I experience with my RAXE500. So I'm not sure how you were testing before but I'd be looking at how you were testing prior and not the RAXE500.
I'd highly recommend reading a bit more on wifi and the misunderstandings of wifi. this article is well written and breaks it down nicely.
https://www.duckware.com/tech/wifi-in-the-us.html
You can also look at a tested review of the RAXE500 from smallnetbuider. They do a great job and test under optimal conditions so see the best devices can perform.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
Well, all I know is with my old router, (Netgear AX8000) I was indeed getting well over 400mbps on the download side.....wanna see a pic of my Router Results?) before it crapped out, now I put in this AX110000 and I can't even bust 100? Nah........something's amiss! It doesn't take an IT Engineer to figure THAT out! ....AND......my 5ghz band keeps dropping out! Just at random times.......no, I'm sending this POS back and getting another AX8000.......none of us even HAVE anything that will run "6E" anyway.......I dunno why I even bothered!
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
Suit yourself. I never did see what you used to test with, that message appears blank to me so I still don't know what the capabilities were of that device. For all I know you were really connecting to the 5GHz side (maybe with Smart Connect enabled?) where the speeds you describe are totally within reason.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
I used Ookla Speedtest....I said that probably 4 times lol.....and I don't know how to "connect it to just the 5ghz side, I just use the 4 supplied lan ports......I don't even see any way to "just " connect it to the 5ghz side! And Smart Connect IS enabled .
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
EXACTLY!!!!!
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
See all the Numbers in the 300's and 400's? Those are the readings from my old router.... the smaller numbers are from the Router at my business..... as you can see I regularly topped over 400mbps on the 2.4ghz side! Now with this new AC11000 I can barely hit 100
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
@HarrySmooth wrote:
See all the Numbers in the 300's and 400's? Those are the readings from my old router.... the smaller numbers are from the Router at my business..... as you can see I regularly topped over 400mbps on the 2.4ghz side! Now with this new AC11000 I can barely hit 100
they don't say if you're testing on 2.4ghz or 5ghz.
And those routers use smart connect. Based on your prior statements of not being aware of what one you're connecting to, I'd be betting that you had smart connect enabled and it was on the 5ghz.
I've been testing routers for over a decade and you won't hit 400+ mbps over 2.4ghz. Again, the 100mbps is more in line with what 2.4ghz AX can do.
But you're welcome to what you believe. You'll be returning routers for quite a while you think that.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
@HarrySmooth I asked what device you used to test with.
With Smart Connect enabled both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands are on the same SSID. The device and the router negotiate which is the best band for that device based on signal strength for wherever that device is. It's clear now that the device was getting connected to the 5GHz band. As I said previously, those speedtest results match perfectly with that scenario.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
OOPS! My Bad! Just checked and "Smart Connect" button was disabled!
should I enable this?
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
No they don't say which network I'm testing but in the "Notes" I put what Band I was testing and where in the house I tested it!
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
Smart Connect was already disabled, I thought it was enabled but I was mistaken..... DEAD slow speed tests!
shiuld I enable it? MY workhorse was my AX6000 /AX8...... but it just quit working! No power, no lights no nothing! And it was BLAZING Fast! Now can't get **bleep** outa this 11000..... so frustrating!
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
HOLY SMOKES! I didn't have the Smart Connect enabled...... just enabled it and NOW I got my Speed!!!! Reading 435 Downstream/ 22.4 Upstream!
now THATS what I'm talking about! Thanks Man! I was SURE I had that enabled!
imstand corrected !
thanks again man!
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
I don't actually like Smart Connect (or band steering, which is the actual name). For instance, if I have a 5GHz device that's close enough to the router, I want to make sure it's always connecting to the 5GHz band. If SC worked as well as the theory describes then I'd leave it alone. But far too often I see devices that just bail out and grab the 2.4GHz band. So I disable SC, making the SSID names different and then point each device to the proper band.
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
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Re: No trace of Wifi6 networks on Nighthawk RAXE500
There's nothing wrong with Harry's router. He was connecting to the 2.4GHz band before he enabled it whereas on his old router, it was pushing his device to the 5GHz band without his knowledge.
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