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Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

joblack4949
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Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

Very concerned.  I've added googleusercontenet.net in the block site, fire wireshark and it still goes there.  Doesn't show as blocked.   What gives?

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plemans
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Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

is it an HTTPS site? 

If so, blocking won't work as its encrypted

 

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joblack4949
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Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

Not sure what you mean.   I am not asking to block content,  i am looking to block destinations.  In the security options, clearly states "blocking sites containing key words or domain".    that is url=domain.   I don't care about encrypted communication and fully aware it is ssl encrypted.   But i do care if googleusercontent is stealing information and for that reason alone,  i should be able to block destinations.

 

 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

I believe what is meant is that the blocking feature of the router don't block any connections to remote sites that use HTTPS as there entry into there pages. The router can only block HTTP sites. 

 

I belive of you want more blocking of HTTPS sites, you'll need to look into DNS services like OpenDNS that I believe can support blocking of connections to sites that use HTTPS. 

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@plemans wrote:

is it an HTTPS site? 

If so, blocking won't work as its encrypted

 


For better informed feedback could be it might help if @joblack4949 explained why they want to block these sites.

 

There may be other solutions.

 

Aha, just spotted the later message.

 

I don't understand it.

 

Seems to confuse incoming and outgoing.

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joblack4949
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Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

I bought this netgear because a similar document found.  Still not sure what you mean.  According to this document, youtube is an https site and it is clearly listed there with no mentioning it cannot block anything other then http sites. 

 

https://kb.netgear.com/24053/How-do-I-block-Internet-sites-on-my-NETGEAR-router-from-the-router-web-...

 

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@joblack4949 wrote:

I bought this netgear because a similar document found. 


Huh?

 

I have no idea what that means.

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joblack4949
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Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

You seem to be missing some network fundamentals.  I don't care what the ssh encrypts.  The packet sent across the wire,  amongst other things, it contains the destination.  That is at the network layer (layer3).   And that is what a router functions at.  It is a layer 3 device.   That said,  no one cares what is being transmitted and again, i am fully aware data is encrypted,  but i would expected as a quite expensive router it is capable of blocking destinations.  In fact this is taking from their site:

 

https://kb.netgear.com/24053/How-do-I-block-Internet-sites-on-my-NETGEAR-router-from-the-router-web-...

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joblack4949
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Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

Follow the link and you will understand.   Who in gods name these days sets up none ssl sites? How many if any have you ever seen recently?  

 

 

 

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plemans
Guru

Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

We're just telling you that it doesn't function like that. Https will NOT get blocked. You can argue it all you want and its been discussed on here. It hasn't changed anything. They don't get blocked. 

 

And the R7900P might have been pretty high end but that was 8 years ago when it was released in 2015. 

If you're truly needing that level of blocking, check into your own firewall build or buying a firewall based device designed specifically for it. 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Netgear wifirouter R7900P is not blocking

What the document doen't say or mention is the HTTP methods that sites use. Yes most sites now days use HTTPS now days. However most home class routers have never had the ability to block HTTPS sites. I don't know the full reasoning behind it. Seen with other non NG router products as well. As suggested find you a DNS service or employ a firewall, Pi-Hole or DNS solution or software solution to help you with those HTTPS sites you want to block. 

 

I've asked NG to update that article with more details regarding HTTP and HTTPS and what routers can and can't block in regards to these two protocols. 

 

Also be aware of your model router:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-Wi-Fi-5-AC-Routers/Top-NETGEAR-FAQs-Support-and-End-of-Se...

 

Good Luck.


@joblack4949 wrote:

I bought this netgear because a similar document found.  Still not sure what you mean.  According to this document, youtube is an https site and it is clearly listed there with no mentioning it cannot block anything other then http sites. 

 

https://kb.netgear.com/24053/How-do-I-block-Internet-sites-on-my-NETGEAR-router-from-the-router-web-...

 


 

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