NETGEAR is aware of a growing number of phone and online scams. To learn how to stay safe click here.
Forum Discussion
Solved
X10 in Bridge Mode
Can someone tell me what do I give up or gain by setting my Netgear router to 'Bridge Mode.' I have (Verizon) Fios and their Modem/Router (Quantum) for my internet, tv and phone service. Right now th...
you're basically running them in double NAT. Here's a little info on it.
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
Putting your X10 in bridge mode removes this problem.
https://kb.netgear.com/24105/What-is-bridge-mode-and-how-do-I-set-it-up-on-my-Nighthawk-router
> Can someone tell me what do I give up or gain by setting my Netgear
> router to 'Bridge Mode.' [...]
Why "Bridge Mode"? What, exactly, does "Bridge Mode" mean to you?
As usual, it might help if you explained the actual problem which you
are trying to solve, rather than asking how to implement some particular
"solution" (like, say, "setting my Netgear router to 'Bridge Mode'")
which may or may not make much sense.
> BTW, I am not using any device on Verizon's 2.5 and 5 ghz SSID
> connections.
Why not?
> [...] Right now they are both set as routers, however the ip addresses
> I get for my connected devices are completely different from the normal
> 192.1.168.1 values. They are all 10.0.0.1 -* in range. I'm no longer
> comfortable with this arrangement. [...]
Presumably, you meant "192.168.1.*", but, in any case, ...
Yes, cascading multiple routers can do that. The usual solution is
to configure one of the routers as something other than a full-function
router. One way would to do that be to configure the (unspecified)
"(Verizon) Fios [...] Modem/Router (Quantum)" as a modem-only, leaving
the R9000 as your (only) router. With approximately no information on
your mystery modem+router, I can't say whether that can be done. Even
if you could do that, I don't know if that change would disable its TV
and/or voice capabilities.
A second way would be to leave the mystery modem+router as your
(only) router, and configure the R9000 as a wireless access point.
Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Documentation. Get the User Manual. Read. Look for "Use the
Router as a WiFi Access Point".
That would disable some router features on the R9000, but you may not
care. For details, see:
Knowing so little about your (unspecified) "(Verizon) Fios [...]
Modem/Router (Quantum)", I'd recommend the R9000-as-WAP scheme, which
should have little risk of disrupting your TV or voice service. This
scheme should put all your client devices on the same subnet
("192.168.1.*"), and allow them all to communicate with each other
easily.
Note that neither of these options involves putting the R9000 into
"bridge mode". Configuring your mystery modem+router as a modem-only is
sometimes referred to putting _it_ into bridge mode.
The R9000 has a bridge mode, but it's unrelated to what you're trying
to do. For comparison, look for "Set Up the Router in Bridge Mode" in
its User Manual. For a picture of that kind of arrangement, you could
fetch the User Manual for a different model, the R7000, and look for
"Set Up the Router in Bridge Mode" in _that_ User Manual.
> Putting your X10 in bridge mode removes this problem.
Not really.
> [...] I guess I will make the change in the morning. [...]
Making the right change might cause less pain (and fewer surprises).
Thanks for the input. Sorry if my inquiry was vague. I looked at the manual, and the difference between 'AP' mode and 'Bridge' mode, seems confusing still.
I have quite a few devices as wired, using the six ethernet ports on the X10, plus my Netgear S8000 switch and its six ports. I have about 20 - 23 devices on my network altogether. I just want to be able to keep as many things connected as 'wired' as I can, when I remove the double NAT situation.
> [...] I looked at the manual, and the difference between 'AP' mode
> and 'Bridge' mode, seems confusing still.Which "the manual"? As previously suggested, the pictures in the
R7000 User Manual might help.A wireless access point uses a cable connection to the main router,
and serves wireless client devices in its neighborhood. An R9000 in
bridge mode uses a wireless connection to the main router, and serves
wired client devices in its neighborhood.> [...] I just want to be able to keep as many things connected as
> 'wired' as I can, when I remove the double NAT situation.The six LAN Ethernet ports on the R9000-as-WAP should still work.
(Or, as the R9000 User manual refers to them, "Ethernet ports 1-4".
Even a tool as valuable as copy+paste can be over-used.) And, you could
always add another (or bigger) switch, if needed.Thanks for the clarification. I talked with a Verizon Tech earlier, who walked me through setting the Fios router as a passthrough only, to my Netgear router, so it (Netgear) would have a static ip and would assign ip addresses to my devices. I'm happy with this solution. This should take care of the double NAT problem.
Iceman64 wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. I talked with a Verizon Tech earlier, who walked me through setting the Fios router as a passthrough only, to my Netgear router, so it (Netgear) would have a static ip and would assign ip addresses to my devices. I'm happy with this solution. This should take care of the double NAT problem.
Could you explain what the tech had you do?