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r6230 lan to wan installation help
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Hi everyone...I am going to install an r6230 in a lan to wan configuration with the r6230 being the secondary router and the primary is a linksys wrt1900ac. I need help with configuring both routers correctly so I have 2 separate wi-fi systems and internet access on both. Devices on the r6230 don't need to communicate with anything on the linksys. There will be one computer connected via a lan port on the r6230 for lan connectivity for maximum speed and minimum latency. Any help would be appreciated in configuring this properly. Thank you in advance for your consideration.
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ok this isn't my original concern, but more answers invite more questions. I'm accepting your answer as the solution. Thanks again for spending this time with me.
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
Just set the NETGEAR router in AP mode, if I understand your question correctly.
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
AP mode won't give me a separate wi-fi network..it only extends your current network. Thanks for the reply. tonyd
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
> [...] install an r6230 in a lan to wan configuration [...]
I don't know what that means. A vague description of what you
believe is a solution is less useful than a clear description of the
actual problem which you would like to solve.
> [...] 2 separate wi-fi systems [...]
How "separate", exactly, would you like them to be? Again, what's
the actual problem which you would like to solve?
> [...] There will be one computer connected via a lan port on the r6230
> for lan connectivity for maximum speed and minimum latency. [...]
Along with some wireless devices?
By "maximum speed" (et c.), do you mean "better than wireless", or
"better than connected to the main router", or what, exactly?
> Just set the NETGEAR router in AP mode [...]
Probably. By "Just", he might mean:
Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Documentation. Get the User Manual (at least). Read. Look for
"Use the Router as a WiFi Access Point".
That should put all your devices on one big LAN, so not really
"separate". No changes are required on the main router to make that
work, but:
Note that when you configure the R6230 as a wireless access point, it
should, by default, get a new/different LAN IP address from your main
router, using DHCP. When that happens, you'll need to ask your
main router about the devices which are connected to it to learn the
new/different LAN IP address of the R6230-as-WAP. Most likely, you'll
want to reserve a particular (memorable) address for the R6230-as-WAP
(on the main router), so that it will always get the same address, and
you won't need to hunt for it every time you want to talk to the thing.
There's some chance that the usual "routerlogin" names will still
work, if your client device is connected directly to the R6230-as-WAP,
but its new/different LAN IP address should work from anyplace on your
LAN.
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
> AP mode won't give me a separate wi-fi network..it only extends your
> current network. [...]
Not really. Again:
> How "separate", exactly, would you like them to be? Again, what's
> the actual problem which you would like to solve?
A WAP lets you use different SSID+passphrase combinations. It does
not use a different LAN IP address subnet, and provides no isolation
between one set of wireless (or wired) devices and another.
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
well, it was clear in my mind what i want...apparently I didn't convey that effectively. sorry. The r6230 will have its own wi-fi network, separate from the primary router wi-fi. The r6230 will be connected to the primary from the r6230 wan port to a lan port on the primary router. This will be the path to the internet. The lan ports on the r6230 and the wi-fi will have devices connected. So i was asking for help configuring this. What other information can I provide? thank you.
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
> [...] The r6230 will have its own wi-fi network, separate from the
> primary router wi-fi. [...]
> > How "separate", exactly, would you like them to be? Again, what's
> > the actual problem which you would like to solve?
Still a mystery.
> [...] What other information can I provide? [...]
Define "separate". And/or a clear explanation of why configuring the
R6230 as a WAP won't satisfy your (unspecified) requirements.
It's possible to configure a LAN which uses multiple IP address
subnets, and multiple routers. (I do it.) But cascading multiple _NAT_
routers can cause various problems, and funneling multiple subnets
through a single NAT router to connect to the Internet is not something
which I'd expect to work.
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this internet belongs to my son. it is his internet and he decides how to run it. our summer apartment is adjacent to him and we share that internet when we are here. the grandkids use our computer for gaming but the wi-fi to his router does not provide a good enough connection. So his plan was to run a lan cable to our apartment(about 80 ft) to supply a solid connection. then he wants me to manage all my own devices on my own separate wi-fi network so he doesn't have to manage them. we have multiple tv's and firestick devices and phones on his wi-fi. Nothing in my house has to communicate with any other device on the network. So how do i take control of my own devices, and provide a lan connection for the grandkids? thank you
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> [...] he wants me to manage all my own devices on my own separate
> wi-fi network so he doesn't have to manage them. [...]
What, exactly, is to "manage"?
Again, what, exactly, does "separate" mean to you?
> A WAP lets you use different SSID+passphrase combinations. [...]
Still true.
> [...] Nothing in my house has to communicate with any other device on
> the network. [...]
Configuring the R6230 as a WAP won't stop such communication.
> [...] how do i take control of my own devices, and provide a lan
> connection for the grandkids? [...]
Define "take control". If you want complete control over devices
which are connected to your own router, and no possible communication
between those devices and devices which are connected to your son's
router, then you can't connect your router (or your devices) to your
son's router.
> [...] the wi-fi to his router does not provide a good enough
> connection. [...]
If no one was troubled by that wireless connection to the main
router, then why would anyone be troubled by a (wired) connection to an
R6230-as-WAP?
So far as I can see, configuring the R6230 as a WAP would give you
the same kind of connectivity to your son's LAN as you had with a
wireless connection to his router, but with the speed of a wired
connection, and a local wireless access point under your control. Where
"under your control" means that you can specify its wireless-network
SSID and passphrase.
> [...] so he doesn't have to manage them. [...]
What's to "manage"? With an R6230-as-WAP, the only management task
on the main router would be reserving an address for it in the DHCP
server there, to make management of the R6230-as-WAP easier from
anyplace on the whole LAN.
If you intend to do all the management of the R6230-as-WAP from
devices which are connected directly to it, then I'd expect the names
like "routerlogin.net" to work for that, so even that address
reservation would be optional.
Without knowing what "manage" or "separate" mean to you, I can't
judge whether an R6230-as-WAP satisfies those (vague) requirements.
Repeating undefined terms does not make them well defined. I don't see
how it would be any worse than what you had, and it should be faster
(for wire-connected devices).
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
so the connection would be lan to lan not lan to wan?
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> so the connection would be lan to lan not lan to wan?
Logically, yes. Physically, as the R6230 User Manual says:
1. Use an Ethernet cable to connect the Internet port of this
router to an Ethernet port in the other router.
"Wireless AP" mode changes a few things. Including:
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Re: r6230 lan to wan installation help
in doing some more reading netgear has instructions for setting up a router as an access point. thank you for your time in working through this with me....Tonyd
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> [...] netgear has instructions [...]
Thanks for the helpful link. Netgear has many instructions for many
things. Perhaps whatever you found applies in your situation, but, with
my weak psychic powers, I couldn't say.
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will i still be able to connect to either 2.4 and 5.0? not sure if IPv6 being disabled means anything.
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> will i still be able to connect to either 2.4 and 5.0? [...]
Sure, unless this is a variation on the "will I be able to play the
violin" joke.
The basic wireless functionality is unchanged. Only the "guest
network" stuff disappears. (On these routers, the "guest network" stuff
is implemented using firewall-like rules, which is part of the router
functionality, so it disappears with the other router functionality in
WAP mode.)
> [...] not sure if IPv6 being disabled means anything.
I doubt that you were using IPv6 on the LAN before.
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Link speed (Receive/Transmit): 1000/1000 (Mbps)
IPv6 address: 2600:6c65:717f:ea80:5cae:890d:8b21:4825
Link-local IPv6 address: fe80::5cae:890d:8b21:4825%3
IPv6 DNS servers: 2600:6c65:717f:ea80:9610:3eff:fe15:c838
2600:6c65:717f:ea80:9610:3eff:fe15:c838
IPv4 address: 192.168.1.112
IPv4 DNS servers: 192.168.1.1
Manufacturer: Intel
Description: Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (7) I219-V
Driver version: 12.19.0.16
Physical address (MAC): 04-D4-C4-55-53-5D
this is my network adapter properties. it's assigned but i can't tell if it is being used. Can you? thank you
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> [...] it's assigned but i can't tell if it is being used. [...]
I don't know why it would be used. My guess would be that Windows
(these days) configures it by default; if you need it, it's there.
If I really wanted to know, then I might run the experiment, and
disable IPv6 on that interface. If nothing stops working, then it
couldn't be very important.
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ok this isn't my original concern, but more answers invite more questions. I'm accepting your answer as the solution. Thanks again for spending this time with me.
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