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vigilcom
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

 
Message 126 of 150
guyguy
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

@SknowSurfer- Well, you would connect a flash drive or external hard drive to the router. Next you would go to Control Panel- Storage. In Storage, you can setup a SHARE folder. You can, also, configure Windows File Service or Mac File Service and use a flash drive or external hard drive as Time Machine.  I have not tried this yet.  At some point, I will in the future. 

 

Synology only has 1900ac and 2600ac models.  I decided to try the 2600ac and spend the money to try it.  I thought well if I don't like, I can return it.  I think the only difference between the two models is this, 2600 is faster than 1900 in processing power.  Obviously, you have a cosmetic differences and other slight differences but 2600 is the better choice. 

 

I am overall happy with the 2600.  I never used a Synology product until now. I had considered getting a NAS like DS216 or similar.  Synology released a good router, not perfect, but it is better than the Nighthawk or Linksys.  I like the Asus 68u and all of the features Asus offered. The 2600 competes with 68u. 

 

Good luck and let me know what you decide. 

Message 127 of 150
JamesGL
Master

Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Hi All,

 

For our LPC, you can configure filtering per device but schedule is not available.

 

https://kb.netgear.com/29913/Setting-Parental-Control-filter-level-for-each-device-using-Desktop-gen...

Message 128 of 150
madcow
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule


@JamesGL wrote:

Hi All,

 

For our LPC, you can configure filtering per device but schedule is not available.

 

https://kb.netgear.com/29913/Setting-Parental-Control-filter-level-for-each-device-using-Desktop-gen...


Hi James,

 

Thanks for pointing it out that "filtering per schedule is not available", if you have read the 6 pages long (3 years old) post you should have known that we are all disappointed and unsatisfied for the lack of such simple feature which has been long available on your competitors' products, to name a few, LINKSYS and ASUS. Not to mention that the LPC you said is handled by OpenDNS not through netgear native firmware, which is even more less user-friendly when compared with your competitors, LINKSYS and ASUS. 

 

I didn't need the schedule access control feature since now, so frankly, I had been happy with my r7000 for 3 years, but not anymore when I found out that such feature is not available on a costly r7000. I switched from LINKSYS to NETGEAR 3 years ago, and I believe my next router would either be a LINKSYS or ASUS. Thanks Netgear r7000 for servicing me these years, and sorry that I have to leave you.

 

 

Message 129 of 150
guyguy
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

It is time to move on.  Netgear SUCKS, period. Netgear will not change anything.  They don't listen to feedback but expect users to buy a crappy router with the features they want you to use.  Move on. 

Message 130 of 150
Spud_Mayhem
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Sharing my experience although it won’t likely help most folks posting here since I have Netgear FVS336Gv3 firewall device in addition to two R7000 wifi routers. This is overly complicated and not something the average home user would figure out on their own so I wanted to share how I got my configuration to work. I goal was simply enough and just wanted to limit my teenage son’s usage on all his devices (1-Android tablet, 1-iPhone, 1-Windows PC) to shutdown internet access within the times he should be sleeping.  To simplify firewall administration across all 3 network devices, I set both R7000’s to AP (access point mode) so I could centrally manage the firewall egress traffic rules on the firewall device only.  Only the firewall issues DHCP addresses and my configuration makes one logical network instead of 3 network segments so all my devices can see each other (assuming the protocols used by the IoT devices is routable).

 

I wanted to simplify people’s experience connecting to my WiFi within my house as people roam from one AP to another so I set both R7000’s to the same SSID, with the same connection password including the guest connection passwords but I did set each R7000 wifi channel different to prevent signal overlap. Wireless devices won’t seamlessly connect between the AP’s as users roam between AP wifi coverage zones but all people have to do is restart their wireless service on their mobile device to reconnect to the AP with the strongest signal.  As long as the wifi connection passwords are the same on both AP devices, users won’t be prompted to re-enter passwords as they re-connect between APs.

 

To limit only my son’s internet access within define time periods & days of the week, I first had to assign static IP addresses to each of my son’s devices.  Select IP ranges outside of your DHCP range 

  • Bind IP addresses on each device to the devices MAC address. In the FSV336Gv3 admin console, within Security / Address Filter / IP-MAC Binding,  I bound his IP addresses to his device’s MAC address to prevent him changing his IP to by-pass my usage rules. If my son changes his IP address, he will not be able to access the internet in my house at any time.
  • Set the schedule the rules should apply. In Security Schedule / Schedule2, I configured the times and days I want the rule to block my son’s internet access.
  • Create an IP group for all his devices to simplify rule application. In Security / Services / IP Groups, enter the name of the IP group, chose LAN group, then select “Add”. Add each IP address for each mobile device the rules should be applied.
  • Define the services you want to block. In Security / Services / Add two customer services. First is Name=Block_TCP, Type=TCP, Start Port=1, Finish Port=65535. Second is Name=Block_UDP, Type=UDP, Start Port=1, Finish Port=65535.
  • Create firewall rules to block TCP/UDP traffic. In Security / Firewall / LAN WAN rules I created two new Outbound Services rules. One Service used the previously defined Block_TCP service in the pull down list, Action “Block by schedule, otherwise allow”, for the select schedule field,  chose “schedule2” and for LAN Users, I selected the IP group I previously created in step above to "create an IP group". The rest of the fields I left to their default settings. Be sure to “enable” your new rules.  Repeat this step but create a second rule for Service Block_UDP using the same settings for Block_TCP.
  • Confirm the firewall device has the correct time. In Administration / Time Zone, confirm your Date / Time field is set to the correct global time zone. I opted to “automatically adjust for daylight savings time” since I live in the US.  Select NTP Mode I set to “Sync to NTP servers on the internet” and left the “default NTP servers” configured as is.

To prevent my son from using his cell phone provider’s service to access the internet while the home network is blocking him, I subscribed to Verizon’s “Family Base” which is a monthly fee. I then set a “Control”  in Time Restriction to block all communications (calls, text & data) to his phone within the same time period I blocked the home internet access.  I did also define “trusted contacts” so my husband and other family members I select could communicate with my son even during the internet blocked periods to ensure we can always reach him.  The "Family Base" only controls availability of the cell providers services and doesn't limit wifi usage.

 

Unbelievable how overly complicated this solution was and Netgear’s OpenDNS is a waste of time.

Model: R7000|Nighthawk AC1900 Dual Band WiFi Router
Message 131 of 150
TheEther
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Very nice writeup.  Your network setup (R7000s as APs with a single subnet) is good.  Good job on limiting cellular access, which people often overlook.

 

Your son may be able to bypass the restrictions by manually changing the IP address on his device.  IP-MAC binding on the firewall can't prevent this.  He could use an IP address of one of your unrestricted devices.  As an alternative or as a supplement, you could use source MAC filtering to block access.  Unfortunately, it's possible to change the MAC address on many devices (mainly computers; not so much smartphones unless jailbroken, perhaps), so MAC filtering isn't foolproof, either.  Also, I'm not sure whether source MAC filtering can be scheduled.  

 

Rather than blocking access, you may want to consider an alternative approach of passive monitoring.  Then trust your son to obey your rules, because he will know that you are monitoring his activity.  There are products that can collect detailed usage statistics and even report on websites that are being accessed.  AFAIK, the FVS336Gv3 can only do per-IP-address accounting, which doesn't include time of access, so replacing it may be necessary if you want to go down this route.

 

I hope this helps.

Message 132 of 150
RMDecker
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Wouldnt it be an easy fix for netgear to just set a schedule for the guest wifi? Then put the kids devices on the guest wifi. Done. 

Model: R6800|Nighthawk AC1900 Smart WiFi Router
Message 133 of 150
RMDecker
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Oh and fix the schedule as to either block or allow during the scheduled hours as I want the internet on from 5am until 10pm

Model: R6800|Nighthawk AC1900 Smart WiFi Router
Message 134 of 150
Noahbundy
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

XD
Model: R6700|Nighthawk AC1750 Smart WiFi Router
Message 135 of 150
Noahbundy
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

This is acctually funny
Model: R6700v2|Nighthawk AC1750 Smart WiFi Router
Message 136 of 150
mgideon
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Just voted!

 

Message 137 of 150
mgideon
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Message 138 of 150
RS2017
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

No point bashing Netgear?  I'm only on page 2 of this thread, your note is dated 10-18-2015... I am sure the heck hoping with the advertsiing I read onthe box and Netgear Videos I watched on YouTube that I am going to see an option to limit access without having to pay Disney $5 a month just to keep my kid off the internet.

 

Just pisses me off to think I stood in line to see Mickey with the kids years ago now too!

Message 139 of 150
RS2017
Aspirant

Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Yes, but not based on time of day, from what I am reading... I'm hoping to read by the end of this thread that my R7000 is not being returned to where I bought it from, but this is a joke so far.

 

 

Message 140 of 150
guyguy
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

There is a lot of reasons to bash Netgear.  They suck, period!  No need to read the threads, SPOILER ALERT, they suck.  Don't waste you time reading through all the reviews and comments.  Stay far away from the Nighthawk router.  Spend your money wisely. 

Message 141 of 150
EduardoNescau
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

I really hope that with a software update Netgear will offer a simple router-based solution to set schedules for each MAC in the allowed devices list. So simple. Thanks

Message 142 of 150
PonsonbyDeville
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Gave up hope of this months ago. I invested in Google WiFi, took a while for it to settle but the parental controls are great compared to Netgear. To be fair, Google stores your device/parental control info in their Cloud (which was my dislike of NetGears Disney approach) but it’s doddle to setup and manage. Netgear have lost a 15 year customer because of this sort sightedness!
Model: R7000|Nighthawk AC1900 Dual Band WiFi Router
Message 143 of 150
mluvw47
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

I was reading this thread, so since 2014(Feb) till today 2018(June). This issue has never been fixed? right?

 

boy...

Such an expensive router and lack of this simple feature, just allow user to block any device on a certain time of the day...even best provide a profile to be admin it w a simple GUI interface...Of course, that all come down to just imagination. 

 

To NetGear: See attachment, if u go to the current UI, Security->Access Control  It already have a way to block the device(but it block all time or allow it), NetGear could just simple add a column (red) allow schedule block on that connected device by the MAC address based on the schedule.  Maybe it would need to restart the router once the scheduler timer hit? That is not good.  XD

 

 

 

Model: R6900v2|Nighthawk AC1900 Smart WiFi Router
Message 144 of 150
TLO03
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

I bought a netgear because i thought it was an upgrade from my linksys router. But its not , My linksys was easy to,log on and schedule a time to dissconnect the kids devices ..  netgear has a complex poor interface with terrilble apps the route you back to there web page . Based on the age of this thread my only solution is. To return it and get another linksys

Model: R7800|Nighthawk X4S AC2600 WiFi Router
Message 145 of 150
rumblers
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Thanks for the clear step by step. It worked for my R6400v2! Hopefully, it takes my sons some time to figure out how I blocked their devices.

Message 146 of 150
zenman777
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Thank you for the detailed instructions. I am running the latest firmware V1.0.4.28. I got an error 400 Bad Request, This server does not support the operation requested by your client. I was able to successfully to save the setting by changing from "User defined" to "Any". Until my 15 year old son figures out his IP address is being used to block his computer and assigns another IP. Just like many others I purchased the most expensive router on the market Nighthawk X10 that had great reviews and functions. Netgear has done real damage to their brand by not properly supporting their customers and specifically their hardware. I am field engineer and will not recommend Netgear to anyone.

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
Message 147 of 150
schumaku
Guru

Re: Blocking device based on time schedule


@zenman777 wrote:

Thank you for the detailed instructions. I am running the latest firmware V1.0.4.28. I got an error 400 Bad Request, This server does not support the operation requested by your client. I was able to successfully to save the setting by changing from "User defined" to "Any".

Hard to help or follow without re-reading all the many posts and guess what you have tried to configure here.

 


@zenman777 wrote:

Until my 15 year old son figures out his IP address is being used to block his computer and assigns another IP.

Well, more sophisticated business class security appliances have some MAC protection ... that works as long as your son does not figure out on how to use an alternate random MAC address on his computer Ethernet or Wi-Fi interface.

 

If seriously want to play the game against your kids you have to think about enterprise grade security Ethernet switches and wireless APs with dynamic VLAN association based on many funky details available granting specific access rights to your network infrastructure only (deployment, servers, guest network with hard proxies, ...), force in place end point security software to all devices, ... and not allow any local network access to storage and the like unless a system is up2date, and not allow Internet access unless properly authenticated. The good thing is - your kits will become IT security specialists very quick. The bad thing - it's a war most parents can only loose...

This has not much to do with Netgear my friend.

 

 

Message 148 of 150
zenman777
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Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

Thanks for the advice. I noticed that it would be hard to follow. My reply was for Billmondei, dated 2015-08-23 07:06 PM on the first page.

Message 149 of 150
schumaku
Guru

Re: Blocking device based on time schedule

The process shown https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-WiFi-Routers/Blocking-device-based-on-time-schedule/m-p/9... makes about sense, also for your R9000 on 1.0.4.28 (current as of writing) - but I must admit I haven't tried this recently.

 

A little bit vague at what point the error happened. Some screenshots documenting the process and the inputs might help. It might be better to create a dedicated thread instead of trying to add this here on that never ending story... 

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