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Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

mushtaqilyas
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Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Hi All,

 

Just bought an Intel Wifi 9260 NGW card but it seems to be unable to connect with My Nighthawk X10 (R9000) at 1.73GBPS ... I have enable HT160 option on the router.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

Model: R8500|Nighthawk X8 Tri-Band AC5300 WiFi Router
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schumaku
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

App? Reads to me like the Wi-Fi client negotiated (and in most environments slightly varying) link rate visible on Windows Network Connection Properties for example.
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mushtaqilyas
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Just windows network connection properties that shows 866.7mbps
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schumaku
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Driver v20.10.2.2 I guess. Any properties on the hardware controls related? Afraid, no AC 9560/9260 capable notebook at hand as of writing.

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mushtaqilyas
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Drivers are upto date.

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mushtaqilyas
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Nope...tried sitting right infront of the router.
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schumaku
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Before we get more grey hair, or loosing all the hair remaining: Just got the information form a well informed source ... 2x2 HT160 capability "could be supported with the next firmware drop". If I read this right, this is a version after v1.0.3.x ... Trial firmware is available for testing. Unclear how people interested on support for ie. the Intel Wireless-AC 9260 (M.2 PCIe, USB) resp. Intel Wireless-AC 9560 (M.2 CNVio) the can get their hands on.it, and provide feedback in a closed way. Time for a closed tester user group in my opinion dear Netgear (ie. on the formal Beta site) again.

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mushtaqilyas
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

I have 2.4g disabled on my router so am defintely connected to 5g.

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mushtaqilyas
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Makes sense.

The current version is 1.0.3.6.

Will surely help if someone can share a link to the beta firmware.

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mushtaqilyas
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

The wifi router serves all clients in a round robin fashion. If one client occupies 1733Mbps at a time ...that does not mean other clients will not get a connection.

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schumaku
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000


@Case850 wrote:

@mushtaqilyas

I am a little confused. 802.11ad is dead so you are left with the 2.4G & 5G on the R9000.

 


802.11ad ... desktop-WiFi it is, with all disdvantages of the very high frequency. Unless the cat does sit behind the computer or the dog is walking through the line of sight, nice technology that's just sour grapes.

 

@Case850 wrote:

Is there any reason you have one AC Intel 9260 that will use up the entire 5G bandwidth? 

Is there any reason all these so "modern" tri-band WiFi mesh system do exactly the same? 80 MHz for the (5 GHz ... what a silly idea) backbone, and 80 MHz for the 5 GHz AP? At least it would allow more bandwidth for those living somewhere out there alone in North Dakota or the like. Beautiful spot, lot of open land there.

 

@Case850 wrote:

 

@schumaku

A lot of effort for the R9000 that is going nowhere. 

Nothing wrong with adding driver updates permitting to get hte best out of it can't be wrong, isn't it?

As we're both not utterly happy with what the R9000 platform would allow. Hey, we have a pretty much universal and powerful computing platform, not a castrated beyond death and maintainability SoC maker Linux. There would be plenty of room to enhance, we have a very substandard ODM platform, an odd "QoS" system (I fail to see the added value), still no isolated wired and wireless guest network, .... leaving Plex alone, Netgear resp. the ODM is stuck on Wi-Fi router function specs we had some 20+ years ago already. Except that there were capable IPsec VPN clients and servers in place permitting point-to-point as well as some hub-and-spoke on board of the first Netgear (ZyXEL OEM) routers. It's a shame what the industry does today. And yes: I have asked what the R9000 ODM developers do in their main job many times. Tea wallawalla or swiping roads I guess.

 

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Redmilk
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

I also emailed to ac 9260 and r9000 with 160Mhz connection problem. But there are no answers for a few days. And I thought I might have a problem with the LAN card, so I bought one more AC 9260. Even the antenna ....

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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mushtaqilyas
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

Despite the recent updates ... aparently still not supported!

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schumaku
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

@Case850 Does your R7800 (same 2.4 and 5 GHz radios) support 2x2 HT160 capability allowing the subject client to (ab)use the full 5 GHz band? Same embedded code for the radios, same drivers in place for the radio modules if I have it right.
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avtella
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

I bought a 9260ac for my Inspiron 7577. Now it works with the R7800 which has the same Qualcomm WiFi QCA9984 chip as the R9000. The only caveat is you have to use the lower channels where you have a contiguous 160Mhz as I believe the upper channels use 80+80 split bonding which the 9260ac does not support. Also routers work in a round robin fashion with clients so no it won’t “hog” the entire 5Ghz, so no issue with other clients. Another thing is with HT160 range will be lower and it’s much more sensitive to obstructions such as walls. Conversely HT80 is more stable and has greater range. On HT80 I get around 70-72MB/s Down from my NAS to laptop and ~45-50 MB/s in the other direction. With HT160 I get 102-108 MB/s Down from my NAS and up to 70 MB/s on the other direction. This testing was around 15ft from router with 2 walls and also tested 1 floor below with better results (on HT160 - 1.7 Gbps Link (114 MB/s Down vs 1.3 Gbps link - 104 MB/s Down) as it’s only 1 floor vs 2 Walls. You can’t get much better than that as your reaching the Ethernet limit. So only use HT160 if you have a NAS or Gig Internet where this is useful otherwise I would stick to HT80.

Also I don’t think HT160 is going anywhere, it’s not as obnoxious as HT40 on 2.4Ghz as 5Ghz range is already much less to begin with and takes a biggger hit on HT160 so it’s not as much of a problem in most neighborhoods, apartments on the other hand maybe.
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avtella
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Re: Intel 9260 not connecting at 1.73GBps with Nighthawk X10 R9000

D7800 has a different WiFi chip than the R7800/9000 (QCA 9980 vs QCA9984), similar but the 9984 supports 2 2x2 MU-MIMO clients concurrently, while the 9980 can only use 3/4 antenas for MU clients. Additionaly the HT160 support and slighly better WiFi performance.

 

In terms of HT160 at least on single 5Ghz band routers, I would say its less toxic than dual 5Ghz routers at HT80 since it has much less range. As for future I don't think its that bad with Intel supporting it, and some routers already having support Most QCA clients like Android phones and WIFi cards will probably support it. Granted not as big a development as AX but even AX standrad will support HT160. Apple is usually more conservative than Intel and they don't even support HT40 on 2.4 Ghz (rightfully so), even though Intel caved in after a while. I mean wide band on 2.4 Ghz is pretty toxic as 2.4 Ghz has a much larger range.

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