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Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

Last week I tried upgrading to firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88 , as I figured the bugs might have been ironed out by now.

However, I can confirm , as many others have that 1.0.9.88_10.2.88 is a big pile of steaming turds.

 

After a week of intermittant drop outs i am back to old faithful V1.0.9.64_10.2.64.

 

That's all.

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 1 of 31
BigTuna40
Tutor

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

I am still running .42 which has been solid. I did try .60 which was a nighmare. Intermitent drops and buffering all throughout the evening. Every once in a while I think I should try the latest which is .88 and I don't think I will. Kind of a shame that we would like to keep our networks secure with the latest patches and won't for fear of a trash firmware. I will stick with .42 until I go with a new router.

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 2 of 31
Portwey84
Virtuoso

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

I've just started receiving emails from Netgear basically advising me to upgrade to v.88 (I'm on v.64). I'm not at all convinced that v.88 is the way to go for me personally considering the amount of complaints it seems to attract. Plus, I think 'advising' people to upgrade probably has more to do with pushing Netgear Armor. Personally, I already subscribe to Bitdefender Total Security, so I'm not going to upgrade. If Netgear actually bother to release a more recent bang up to date firmware that has meaningful security/functionality tweaks rather than something that has seemingly been doing the rounds since August last year, then I might consider updating my firmware, but only after others more curious than I have taken the trouble to extensively test it and say it's bug free.

 

Considering MS regularly release security updates, Bitdefender is bang on the ball with their updates and my VPN provider and my preferred browser are also bang up to date, Netgear seems to be lagging behind, unless everything in their latest firmware is actually the best they can do?......

 

As for the R7000 itself, I actually really like it, not giving me any issues at all on v.64.

Message 3 of 31
shoman94
Apprentice

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

.64 really? I thought everything above .42 was junk.
Message 4 of 31
Portwey84
Virtuoso

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

Well, I can't speak for v.42 or any firmware version preceding that because my router shipped with v.64 from the factory. Not had any issues with it, none. Trouble is, folks who are on different firmwares will quite happily inform all of their tales of woe when stuff goes wrong, hence why I won't even consider updating my R7000 to v.88, purely because I've been completely put off by the negative posts.

 

Many of us are in different countries using different ISP's using different modems and with differing qualities of incoming line to our properties, either copper wire or FTTP or FTTC, of which I'm the latter. Probably, if I did update to v.88, I wouldn't have any issues, trouble is, I don't want to muck up what is working perfectly well as is.

Message 5 of 31
yddtime
Luminary

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88


@Portwey84 wrote:

Well, I can't speak for v.42 or any firmware version preceding that because my router shipped with v.64 from the factory. Not had any issues with it, none. Trouble is, folks who are on different firmwares will quite happily inform all of their tales of woe when stuff goes wrong, hence why I won't even consider updating my R7000 to v.88, purely because I've been completely put off by the negative posts.

 

Many of us are in different countries using different ISP's using different modems and with differing qualities of incoming line to our properties, either copper wire or FTTP or FTTC, of which I'm the latter. Probably, if I did update to v.88, I wouldn't have any issues, trouble is, I don't want to muck up what is working perfectly well as is.


How many devices do you have on your network? I have always suspected that firmware versions after 42 suffer from a resource constraint or a buffer overflow bug. You don't trigger the issues if you have very few devices. I have over 40 devices on my network and all versions after 42 are unusable for me.

R7000 is in the recycle bin
Message 6 of 31
shoman94
Apprentice

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

I have at least 35 maybe 40 devices connected.
Message 7 of 31
yddtime
Luminary

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

@shoman94 Sorry, trying to keep track of who has issues with versions above 42 and who doesn't. I think you have said 42 is stable for you but nothing above that?

R7000 is in the recycle bin
Message 8 of 31
shoman94
Apprentice

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

I think I tried every one above .42 but I'm not 100% sure.
Message 9 of 31
Portwey84
Virtuoso

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

I only have a maximum of 22 devices on my R7000 and four of those are plugged into the router.

Message 10 of 31
NE1Scott
Guide

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

V1.0.9.42_10.2.44 is the only version that seems to not conituously drop your wireless network at the most inconvenient times.

 

Have have went back and forthe with the other versions and it was the only version that I was able to live with and don't appear to have any issues with although it is a year or two old at least.

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 11 of 31
Portwey84
Virtuoso

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

My connection on firmware v.64 has been rock solid since I bought my R7000 new at the end of January 20. I'm leaving things be!

Message 12 of 31
sapreaper
Tutor

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

Heh, I still have 1.0.9.18

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 13 of 31
Portwey84
Virtuoso

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

@sapreaper  I've since upgraded to the latest firmware since that post and successfully too. I'm not having any issues with it. It seems as though you're on a firmware that has been around since at least 2017.

 

I get the impression that most of the R7000 users that are reporting problems with firmware issues, especially the many reported 5ghz WiFi dropouts, are USA based, which would make sense as this is a very US centric forum. It's just a theory of mine, completely untested, but I'm wondering if the WiFi issues are connected to router WiFi power differences between different Countries/Regions of the world. Perhaps if router users experimented and tried changing the Region on the router, whether or not this would have either a positive or negative effect? I'm sure someone knowledgable will debunk my theory.

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 14 of 31
sapreaper
Tutor

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

@Portwey84 Interesting. I purchased mine Sept. 2017, kept having hard lockups on it. (could not even get to router IP of .1 etc) No clue what the firmware was back then.

I had to exchange it and got the same model of course but was in Jan. 2018

If I remember correctly, it shipped with what it has now. Of course because I read these forums.  I bought a second AC1900 (different brand that same year, and it is still here in the box)  I figure if I update, something will break and I will have another to try lol.

Not sure what to do actually. (my full current version# is actually: V1.0.9.18_1.2.27)

Not sure about the power. Anything the power brick takes in knocks it down to 5v, 12v, 18v etc so I am not sure how that would change anything. Granted using 220/240volt gives the brick more heat to dissipate and makes them warm typically but again all output voltage should be the same whether here or overseas.

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 15 of 31
Portwey84
Virtuoso

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

@sapreaper  Ahh, I guess this is my fault, I didn't make it clear what I meant by variations in WiFi transmission power differences between Countries. I wasn't referring to AC power, that won't make any difference. I was referring to the fact that the actual WiFi transmission power does vary between countries. On some routers, you can alter the power at which the WiFi transmits to your devices. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. So that is what I meant by altering your region setting on your router. I don't know whether hidden within the firmware, are various settings relating to WiFi transmission power depending on which Country you reside in. I could and I probably am, overthinking this if I'm honest. But who's to say it isn't worth trying?

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 16 of 31
sapreaper
Tutor

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

@Portwey84Ahh I understand. I missed the WIFI part. I deal with AC power in Data Centers so my mind goes that direction. I suppose it is possible that makes things different. Never tinkered with much on that end.

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 17 of 31
bascaves
Apprentice

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

Hello, 

 

One onside you might find it surprisingly that since last summer Netgear didn't bring out a next release that fixes a lot out of release 1.0.9.88. They still could have done some damage control on their reputation in that respect. On the other side with all the complains about the flacky bad software over the past 2-3 years since release 1.0.9.42. It is not surprisingly, because of Netgear's poor support model and follow up record.  End of story is that like many others I tried but never got further then release 1.0..9.42 remain at least running solid for me. Despite potential security flaws this firmware might have. 

 

I believe by now Netgear with their last bad release of 1.0.9.88 abondoned the R7K range of their SOHO routers. So if replacement time comes it will be a next gen. But for sure for me not again this Netgear product nightmare.

 

If they would be a car manufactor building cars like that, they would have been taken off the road. I have said it many time great hardware with poor software support results in a bad end product. 

 

Extra note: 

I gave up on checking on next releases. But I discovered that there is a new release out, which acutally my R7000's don't  tell about it still indicates the next release is 1.0.9.88.

 

So who was daringful to test

https://kb.netgear.com/000061805/R7000-Firmware-Version-1-0-11-100

 

My 2 cents,

Bas.

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 18 of 31
JustaUser2
Initiate

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

FYI:

 

... had Firmware Version 1.0.9.88_10.2.88, just updated to 1.0.11.100_10.2.100 because of DHCP Issues dropping/killing Internet access (or more often worse, like internet access) that occurs about once every few days (Anyone else experiencing this issue?; manifests itself by displaying APIPA with a 169.254.x.x. address acquisition instead of a local address like 192.168.x.x or a 10.x.x.x when viewed with IPConfig under Windows, for example)...

 

... will report back if it solves the problem (it could still be linked to the attached Motorola Cable Modem, so will not unequivocally say it is NetGear Bug until fully worked through; resetting just the router, clears it)...

 

... If this doesn't resolve this issue, will backlevel to something like a x.42 version(?) and see what happens after a few more days.  If that doesn't help, methinks it's dd-wrt time (or similar), and some defensive coding!

 

Thanks & Happy [Un]Routing! Smiley Happy

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 19 of 31
JustaUser2
Initiate

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88_10.2.88

So far so good (No dropouts since I posted, above)!

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 20 of 31
Guilden-NL
Tutor

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88 to _10.2.88

Good to know.  I am ready to throw it out, so will update to this to get me through the end of the month.  At that point, will be wiping everything and going DDWRT.  Will never buy another Netgear again. 

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 21 of 31
sapreaper
Tutor

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88 to _10.2.88

I upgraded to 10.2.88 which now has Netgear Armor, and so far so good.

PS4 gaming seems good, along with 4 fire sticks streaming at times. I typically have 40 devices connected espically now during work from home/Covid.

From steam I had a steady download of approx 170Mbps which is not bad at all at least for me. (I have 250Mbps/15Mbps cable tier)

 

I did notice, however, that in the LOGS section you cannot uncheck items included in LOG and hit apply. Just gives an error, "<IP of router> didn't send any data".  What?  lol That was in Chrome. In FF you get a connection reset.

 

Device Names are such an improvement. It actually knows what every device is now!

We use the internet non-stop so I will post back if I notice any other issues.

 

*Apologies my copy/paste didn't work (I missed some). I did have some issues with WIFI. NOT dropping at all, but very slow. Was getting 19Mbps fast dot com speeds.  I lowered my 2.4 to 289Mbps (289? The help at the bottom of the router does not even show that as an option) and my 5ghz to 600Mbps. Help shows:

 

Mode

Select the wireless mode you want to use. The options are:

  • Up to 54 Mbps. Legacy Mode, with a maximum speed of up to 54 Mbps for b/g networks.
  • Up to 130 Mbps. Neighbor-Friendly Mode, the default, with a speed of up to 130 Mbps in the presence of neighboring wireless networks.
  • Up to 300 Mbps. Performance Mode, with a maximum Wireless-N speed of up to 300 Mbps.

So that is 100% wrong.

 

 

I also changed my 2.4 channel from Auto to channel 8 as that is the least used.

I was able to get up to approx 40Mbps...

 

5Ghz I am getting 100Mbps on the same device.

 

Again I am not noticing any streaming issues though.  I have another brand backup router sitting brand new and configured, (AC1900 also) with similar specs.  So I will leave this firmware alone I think and if it gets bad, I may say goodbye to netgear. 

We will see

ReAp

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 22 of 31
bascaves
Apprentice

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88 to _10.2.88

Hello Reap,


Thank you for sharing that.  I am still on 9.42 after trying some releases. If this is finally a release that is stable that would be nice. Netgear wasn't succesful in that the last 3 years. 

 

Let the community know if this good experience is lasting :-)

 

Brgds,


Bas. 

Model: R7000|AC1900 Smart WIFI Router
Message 23 of 31
hsan
Tutor

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88 to _10.2.88

Almost 6 months since the FW was released and only 23 messages ... probably about time I do the upgrade.

Message 24 of 31
antinode
Guru

Re: R7000 firmware 1.0.9.88 to _10.2.88

> [...] probably about time I do the upgrade.

 

   To what?

 

   Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model number, and look
for Downloads.  (For older versions, under Firmware and Software
Downloads, look for "View Previous Versions".)  Find the kit(s).
Download the kit(s) you want.  Read the "Release Notes" file for
instructions.  (In the User Manual, look for "firmware", and,
especially, for a topic like "Manually Upload Firmware to the Router".)

 

   A Web/forum search for a less obsolete version number might yield
more valuable information than you'll find in this months-old thread.

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