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R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

The router found a new firmware version 1.0.4.12 when I did a Advanced-Administration - Firmware Update.

However, there is mention of the version here or in the product download page

https://www.netgear.com/support/download/

What is the changelog for the 4.12 version?

Is this a genuine download by the router (never sure if a malaware has created a man-in-the-middle hijack when updates are done in such obscured manner..)

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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Virtuoso

Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

To make things worse.. there is 1.0.4.12 available for the R8000.  Dont see that version for the R9000.

Did the device get the wrong firmware from wherever it gets these from?

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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Aspirant

Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Had the same happen. Legit??
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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

This just popped up for me too. Seems odd.
Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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Aspirant

Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

This makes me believe it's legit:

 

R9000 Firmware Version 1.0.4.12

 

I am currently running it with no issues.

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Already have 1.0.4.2 installed.

Get promted that there is a newer(!) version named 1.0.4.12 (see pic.)

 

How does that work?

 

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Upgrade 1.0.4.2 to 1.0.4.12 ??? I call it a downgrade.
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Guru

Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

12 is a bigger integer number than 2 or 3, isn't it?

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?


@alokeprasad wrote:

To make things worse.. there is 1.0.4.12 available for the R8000.  Dont see that version for the R9000.

Did the device get the wrong firmware from wherever it gets these from?


What have the R9000 and the R8000 in common?

 

I could understand the question if comparing R9000 vs. R8900 which are using the almost same platform.

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Virtuoso

Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Interesting.

The product download page (https://www.netgear.com/support/download/) is still showing 1.0.4.2 as latest.

This whole thread may be because the Netgear web sites are not updated quickly and are out of sync.

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

The releae notes for R9000 Firmware Version 1.0.4.12 - sorry Netgear - still s**k:

 

Bug Fixes:

  • Fixes security vulnerability issues

Comeon, you can do it better! List _all_ security fixes, including the CVRs referenced.

 

Some good news included, so worth mentioning:

 

C:\>nslookup -type=txt -class=chaos version.bind 192.168.1.1
Server: UnKnown
Address: 192.168.1.1

version.bind text =

"dnsmasq-2.78"

 

So part of the homework done.

Unclear if the recent SAMBA vulnerabilities are addressed (or backported):

 

root@R9000:/# /usr/sbin/smbd -V
Version 4.6.4

 

@BretD @Altsai ... please.

 

 

 

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?


@alokeprasad wrote:

Interesting.

The product download page (https://www.netgear.com/support/download/) is still showing 1.0.4.2 as latest.

This whole thread may be because the Netgear web sites are not updated quickly and are out of sync.


Agree. The release information is in place, the effective firmware download isn't:

 

R9000 downloads.PNG

 

Again @BretD and @Altsai ... hurry up please.

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Yes, I CAN count, however 1.0.4.12 was alreday released in February, 1.0.4.2 in July (I think).

Is Netgerar telling us to downgrade?

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?


@Net-worth wrote:

Yes, I CAN count, however 1.0.4.12 was alreday released in February, 1.0.4.2 in July (I think).

Is Netgerar telling us to downgrade?


R8000 <> R9000. The Netgear router release numbers don't follow a systematic numbering over different models. A build 1.0.4.12 for an R8000 released in Feb 2018 has not much in common with the 1.0.4.12 for the R9000 as released these hours. You are a little bit over-optimistic 8-)

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

I've been talking about the R9000 all along ...

What is the difference  bwtween these two (info from from Netgears's relase notes):

 

R9000 Firmware Version 1.0.4.12 (Last Updated:09/14/2018)
Bug Fixes:
    Fixes security vulnerability issues.
New Features and Enhancements:
    Improves the system stability.
    Added support for SHA256 certificates in lieu of MD5 for OpenVPN.
    Supports 802.11k.
    Supports traffic meter upper bound up to 4095TB.

R9000 Firmware Version 1.0.4.2  (Last Updated:05/18/2018)
Bug Fixes:
    Fixes security vulnerability issues.
New Features and Enhancements:
    Improves the system stability.
    Added support for SHA256 certificates in lieu of MD5 for OpenVPN.
    Supports 802.11k.
    Supports traffic meter upper bound up to 4095TB.

 

 

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

My comment was related to your claim that 1.0.4.12 was released in February. Probably for the R8000. Probably for other models.

Again, I'm the least one who is not complaining about Netgear's substandard and lazy (incomplete) release notes. And of course several items listed for 1.0.4.12 were inherited on earlier builds, and are obsolete therefore. Again poor release note handling; Virtually NO information, most unspecified blah blah. And no, Netgear ( @mdgm thank you for the related PM on the same complaint on the ReadyNAS release notes - but you see here the problem is much bigger than just ReadyNAS) I'm not interested in downloading and deccompressing TBytes with each and every product GPL code to figure out if your OEM resp. developers have done the homework in attempting to reply to the Netgear customers here in the community. This does also proof that the "by build" release notes are hard to handle, we need a complete release note thread over all builds per product. Then can we consider using Netgear products in strictly audited IT environments. Try to show some history on the recent updates for a product since it exists. What a nightmare job collecting all the links to the release notes using the "View Previous Versions" and click through to all the Release Notes and compile an own list - just to find the ubiquitous "security fixes".

 

 

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Noted. Sorry for the confusion (on my behalf).

I guess I would have expected (for the R9000) 1.0.4.3 as a new relase instead on 1.0.4.12 regardelss of platform.

 

Still...

The two relases are identical (R9000) as to the relase notes.

If indeed 1.0.4.12 (R9000) has fixes that sets it part from (is newer than) 1.0.4.2 (R9000), what are they and why should I upgrade?

 

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?


@Net-worth wrote:

 

The two relases are identical (R9000) as to the relase notes.

If indeed 1.0.4.12 (R9000) has fixes that sets it part from (is newer than) 1.0.4.2 (R9000), what are they and why should I upgrade?


One change was mentioned above already - dnsmasq is finally up2date.

Without a complete source code review it's almost impossible to answer.

And then there might be changes ref. fixed regulatory area information in the WiFi beacon which should help with the re-connection of certain WLAN clients if the R9000 5 GHz interface is operating on the mid and high band. But this might be part of proprietary radio firmware and not visible in the Open Source.

Last, some excursions to the tales of mystery and imagination might bring up the hope they have fixed the code around the editing of connected device names ans access rights without sending the Attached Devices map and the related lists onto the moon of corruption.

Yes Netgear: Complete and comprehensive Release Notes are mandatory. @Altsai @BretD - just duplicating text from many moons ago can't be considered reasonable and trustworthy.

 

PS. @Net-worth I would like to see a unified versionning in the Netgear routers line of firmware builds, too. Much less confusion - clearly not caused by you.

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

I'd love to know if this update solves the issue I have with my R9000 killing my ethernet connections. After spending 1/2 a day trying to troubleshoot this last week, I'm a little hesitant to go back to my old setup just to see if it's fixed.

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

I've updated my R9000 but unfortunately this "has broken" Remote Management in Genie and Nighthawk app. Remote Management doesn't work anymore. Tried to disable and enable again but "Trouble Enabling - There was a problem enabling Remote Management, please try again or enable later"

Hope Netgear fix it

 

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Confirmed, same for me. Nighthawk App does list the remote device as Offline with a red dot, Genie App does not show it anymore at all. Brilliant QA 8-/
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Virtuoso

Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?


@clalaster wrote:

I've updated my R9000 but unfortunately this "has broken" Remote Management in Genie and Nighthawk app. Remote Management doesn't work anymore. 

 

You are probably better off with Remote Management disabled.  That is a common source for security prblems...My guess is Netgear broke someting in the process of fixing some security hole in remote management.

Model: R9000|Nighthawk X10 AD7200 Smart WiFi Router
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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?


@alokeprasad wrote:

@clalaster wrote:

I've updated my R9000 but unfortunately this "has broken" Remote Management in Genie and Nighthawk app. Remote Management doesn't work anymore. 

 

You are probably better off with Remote Management disabled.  That is a common source for security prblems...My guess is Netgear broke someting in the process of fixing some security hole in remote management.


The Apps are not using the exposed port configured in the Remote Management - it's a cloud based Remote Access with a trust established between the App and the Nighthawk router.  

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

@Altsai and @BretD please return this rushed-out and once more untested firmware back to where it's coming from - we need the Genie App and Nightahwk App remote administration workable.

 

Address label for the next promotion round at Netgear attached.

 

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Re: R9000 X10 firmware # 1.0.4.12 What is it?

Looks as though we finally have some updated relese notes....

 

Bug Fixes:

  • Fixes 2.4G short range performance issues
  • Fixes security vulnerability issues

New Features and Enhancements:

  • Supports FCC HT80+HT80 (DFS) channels
  • Supports CE HT80+HT80 (DFS) channels
  • Upgrades the iQoS database to v1.42
  • Upgrades Plex Media Server to v1.13.5
  • Supports DHCP option 61 for UK ISP Sky Internet connection settings
  • Supports the Europe GDPR agreement URL for NTGR DDNS
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