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Re: connecting 2 units together

corvairbob
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connecting 2 units together

i have the c7000 combo unit and i just got the linksys ea7500 router. what i would like to do is put my camera system on the linksys unit to try to get it a bit harder for hackers to get to and then to my system. on some of the camera forums they are saying to make the home network more secure to put the cameras on a seperate router. 

 

anyway at this time just for testing i have both the c7000 and the ea7500 powered on and i have the ea7500 connected to the c7000 using the internet port on the linksys and port 4 on the c7000. i tried using one of the regular ports on the linksys but then i can't see the linksys or connect to it. that may have been because it kept telling me to reset it.

 

at this time i can see both units and have my pc lan connected and the linksys wifi connected. yea don't need to but i can do anything with the linksys unless i at least connect with the wifi.

 

so my question is how can i make the cameras connect to the linksys and still see them when i'm out of my home at stores or such? and will i have the added security doing this? if not i can just store the linksys and in the event the c7000 fails i have a spare.

i did watch some youtubes and the way they say to connect them like bridging is not working and conecting then port to port did not work. i had to use the yellow port on the linksys and port 4 onthe c7000 because that one was free. 

thanks bp.

Model: C7000|Nighthawk - AC1900 WiFi Cable Modem Router
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antinode
Guru

Re: connecting 2 units together

> [...] how can i make the cameras connect to the linksys and still see
> them when i'm out of my home at stores or such? [...]

 

   Didn't we have this discussion in 2018?

 

      https://community.netgear.com/t5/x/x/m-p/1651330

 

Does the phrase "wireless access point" ring a bell?

 

> [...] on some of the camera forums they are saying [...]

 

   Thanks for the helpful links.  Are "they" also saying how to make it
all work with multiple routers?

 

   A simple scheme would be to configure "the linksys ea7500 router" as
a WAP.  One LAN subnet, everyone talks to everyone else, port forwarding
on the C7000 (modem_router) works as before, and so on.

 

> [...] i tried using one of the regular ports on the linksys [...]


   Define "regular port"?  What's an _irregular_ port?  What does
Linksys call them?

 

   That's one step toward configuring the EA7500 as a WAP, but I'd guess
that there's a better way.  One of us might need to consult the EA7500
documentation to see how to do it correctly.  (I vote for you.)

 

> [...] will i have the added security doing this? [...]

 

   No.

 

> [...] if not i can just store the linksys and in the event the c7000
> fails i have a spare. [...]

 

   "a spare" _what_?  A C7000 is a cable-TV modem+router.  An EA7500 is
a router.  See the difference?

 

> i did watch some youtubes [...]

 

   Sincere thanks for not including the links to those.

 

> [...] the way they say to connect them like bridging is not working
> and conecting then port to port did not work. [...]

 

   Not having wasted my time watching those movies, and having no idea
what you did, or what kind of "not working" you might have experienced,
it's tough to comment productively on that.  But how, exactly, would you
connect any of these devices to each other which would not qualify as
"port to port"?  To what do you connect anything which is not an
Ethernet port?

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plemans
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Re: connecting 2 units together

its because your running 2 devices in router mode. it causes a double nat. 

https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT

 

try setting up the linksys as an access point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUIYpf0S00

 

 

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corvairbob
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Re: connecting 2 units together

thanks i have the ethernet cables connected as that youtube shows now. the only thing i did not do was connect it in that bridge mode. when i was setting it up all those pages did not show up when i was installing it, it kept telling me to press the reset button and wait. so i waited like hours. i had to keep the pc connected via that cable the whole time and i see that was how to do that. 

 

at this time i have it set so i see both routers  on my phone. and i can connect to either one out in the back yard at the same strenght on my phone but they are about 4' apart at this time down stairs. also if i connect thru wifi onmy pc i can get into the settings on the linksys router. i expect when i change that to bridge mode i will not be able to get into the linksys settings anymore unless i reset it.

 

so tell me this if you can if i put it into bridge mode will my stregnth be more because the ls will be higher in the air?

 

or will it be so all i see is the netgear router?

or will i still see both and have about teh same range no matter what unit i connect to?

 

so the way it is set now will i gain anything?

 

thanks. 

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antinode
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Re: connecting 2 units together

> [...] i have the ethernet cables connected as that youtube shows now.
> [...]

 

   _Which_ "that youtube"?  And that is how, exactly?  And how does that
compare with what the product documentation says?

 

> [...] the only thing i did not do was connect it in that bridge mode.
> [...]

 

   _Which_ "it" is that?  What, exactly, does "that bridge mode" mean to
you?  "Bridge mode" is a widely misused/misunderstood term.  Does
"bridge mode" mean to you what it does to Netgear or what it does to
Linksys?

 

      https://www.linksys.com/us/support-article?articleNum=247436

 

   Note "Bridge Mode" versus "Wireless Bridge".  Obviously different,
but both "Bridge" modes.  Netgear's terminology is less ambiguous.


> [...] if i connect thru wifi onmy pc i can get into the settings on
> the linksys router. [...]

 

   _How_, exactly can you do that?

 

> at this time i have it set so i see both routers on my phone. [...]

 

   "see"?  Are you talking about their wireless SSIDs, or what?

 

> [...] i expect when i change that to bridge mode i will not be able
> to get into the linksys settings anymore unless i reset it.

 

   Why not?  If you know its (LAN) IP address, then I'd expect
specifying that in a web browser to work.

 

> [...] if i put it into bridge mode will my stregnth be more because
> the ls will be higher in the air?


   Huh?  "the ls"?  Does that mean the EA7500?

 

   Tell me this, if you can: How would changing the operating mode of
the EA7500 change its elevation?

 

> so the way it is set now will i gain anything?

 

   You seem to assume that someone who reads this scrambled mess would
have some idea of how "it is set now", whatever "it" is.  I sure
wouldn't bet on it.

 

   If you have two routers, and both are configured as full-function
routers, then I'd expect problems with access from the outside world to
devices which are connected to the inner router.  Which is why you keep
getting suggestions to configure the EA7500 as a WAP (which Linksys
calls "Bridge Mode").

 

   Have you looked at the IP addresses of your devices when they're
connected to the C7000 versus when they're connected to the EA7500?

Message 5 of 9
corvairbob
Tutor

Re: connecting 2 units together

 

ok plemans i did what this said 

try setting up the linksys as an access point. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUIYpf0S00

 and now i do not see the linksys router. that could be normal i do see the linksys in the internet access icon an i can connect to the 2.4 and the 5 ghz bands. but setting next to the router the 2.4 band is way slower for the speed test. so maybe this router is not as fast as the c7000 is. using the wifi connections

linksys 2.4  20 mbps

linksys 5  30 bps

netgear 2.4  23 mbps

netgear 5  230 mbps

 

so is that now a normal thing to lose the linksys router when i open a tab and enter 192.168.1.1  ? because one of the youtubes said not to use the yellow port but the youtube you sent me to showed using the yellow port   also because i do not yet have a place for the linksys router can i turn it off and not lose any settings for the next time i turn it back on?  thanks

Message 6 of 9
plemans
Guru

Re: connecting 2 units together

You'd be best to ask on the linksys forum what its expectations are in bridge mode. 

if you watched the video, it literally goes over the fact that you're changing the IP address for the linksys. You'd then use that address to access it. 

Message 7 of 9
corvairbob
Tutor

Re: connecting 2 units together

thanks i did use that address and it failed to access. also i moved the linksys upstairs using a 50' cat5 cable and i lost wifi speed on the 2.4 band and kept the same speeds on the other bands for  both the netgear and the linksys 5ghz band, so that was a pointless ventrue. but this was just a test to see how it would work. and like i said before at the least i can put this on the shelf and use it in the future in case of a c7000 failure, that is bound to happen.  i have a netgear n600 modem only and hooking this to that should be a pc of cake as ther will be nothing else to setup.

 

so being i lost the linksys 2.4ghz band speed in that bridge mode i will turn it off and set it onthe shelf. thanks for the help. and if i need to use it as the stand alone router i will just reset it and it should be just fine. so now i know. it was worth figureing it out but i did not gain anything. thanks again bp.

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antinode
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Re: connecting 2 units together

> [...] now i do not see the linksys router. [...]

 

   Well, duh.  Where did you look?

 

> [...] one of the youtubes said [...]

 

   What did _Linksys_ say?

 

> [...] i moved the linksys upstairs using a 50' cat5 cable and i lost
> wifi speed on the 2.4 band [...]

 

   I suppose that it would be pointless to note that a bad cable could
cause that.

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