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Netgear AX12 and CM1100 Port Aggregation
Hello,
I just received my new AX12 and so far find it an excellent upgrade. I also have the CM11100 modem and see that both have Ethernet Port Aggregation. I have 1 gig service with comcast. ...
I'll dumb it down a bit more for you.
Running a speed test, on a single device, directly connected to your RAX120 can only yield a max speed throughput of ~960Mbps (1Gbps minus overhead).
Running another speed test, on another device, at the same time, directly connected to your RAX120, can yet again, only yield a max speed throughput of ~960Mbps (again 1Gbps minus overhead).
Add the two results together and you should at least achieve 1000Mbps (full 1Gbps Internet connection). If your Internet has been over provisioned, you could see aggregated (pun intended) speeds in excess of 1Gbps. I would expect you'd achieve 1100-1200Mbps.
No matter the results above, if LACP LAG has been optimally implemented in both the RAX120 and CM1100, I'd continue to use LAG between them. You never know if your ISP overprovisions in the future, LAG provides load balancing, failover, etc, etc, etc.
Hopes this helps.
Okay, I tried this on WAN and LAN 1 and it is now active. So, this is good news. I did not try on LAN 1 and LAN 2 as I wasnt sure what to do with the WAN port.
Now for my QNAP, I had it in LAN 1 and LAN 2 and moved to LAN 2 and LAN 3 but not sure I will have port aggregation now? Not sure how to verify this? I do not have an errors on my QNAP and am able to access.
Thoughts?
How did you know LAN port aggregation was working before?
At any rate, if I had to guess, I'd think the WAN port aggregation status would show up under Internet, WAN Setup, or the ADVANCED overview screen.
I assume the LAN port aggregation status would still show up under Advanced->Ethernet Port Aggregation. You should see something like:
Ethernet Port Aggregation Status: Active
I didnt know if lan port aggregation was working before but assumed it was as I was not getting errors.
For the Wan aggregation, under internet, Wan Aggregation and then there is a message that says "Wan aggregation is active.
For the lan aggregation, I looked through all settings on the router and do not see any setting for ethernet port aggregation. I had this setting for my Netgear X8, but dont see it here.
I ran both, not sure what I am looking for.
On debug, it has an option to enable lan/wan packet capture and one for Wan port mirror to lan port 1. Not sure either of these matter?
on the hidden info, interesting all if shows. Doesnt really say anything about wan or lan aggrregatioon.
Appreciate the time and info you are providing.
...or get one of these:
Then you can connect your RAX120 to the MS510TX via their 5Gbe LAN ports. Your QNAP would easily connect to the MS510TX via 2-port Link Aggregation (LACP LAG).
This would be a sweet setup :smileyvery-happy:
The MS510TX was on sale for $209 a few weeks ago on Amazon and Newegg... price matching eachother.
This is the switch I am using
https://www.netgear.com/landings/s8000/default.aspx
Tge issue with this and the other is that that there is no option in the router settings forcethernet port aggregation, only wan aggregation. Maybe they will add this later?
I would take the S8000 back if you can...
The R9000 and XR700 have 1G/10G ports so it play well with the SX10. The S8000 only has 1G ports, but all support LAN Link Aggregation. That's why your X8 and S8000 were a good fit.
And, actually, you should not have had your QNAP connected to the LAG ports on the router... the router LAG ports should have been connected to the S8000, then the QNAP connected to the S8000. The S8000 supports multiple LAGs.
Anyway, you have a Multi-Gig router now... with a port that supports up to 5Gb. That puppy would fit perfectly in the MS510TX!
...and then your QNAP would connect to the MS510TX.
I will go ahead and get what you recommend. As you can tell by me having this hooked up incorrectly in the first place, I have some opportunities to learn.
When I setup the MS510TX the 2 lan ports on the QNAP NAS will be connected to it. Then I assume there will be one port from the router to the switch that is connected? Does it matter which port? I assume it could be LAN ports 2, 3 or 4?
I wouould then keep the WAN sestup with the WAN and LAN 1 port.
Then I have some other items like my ooma, and my phillips hue that could be connected to either the router or the switch?
I dont have any other connections now, so i will have extra space in the switch for expansion.
You are exactly correct. The MS510TX has the following 10-ports:
1 Gigabit ports: 4 (10M/100M/1G)
2.5-Gigabit ports: 2 (100M/1G/2.5G)
5-Gigabit ports: 2 (100M/1G/2.5G/5G)
10-Gigabit copper ports: 1 (100M/1G/2.5G/5G/10GBASE-T)
10-Gigabit fiber SFP+ ports: 1 (1G/10GBASE-X SFP+)All the ports are labled on the front of the switch.
- You would connect your modem and router just as they are now.
- You would connect your router to the switch by plugging one end of a Cat5e/Cat6 cable into the routers 5-Gigabit port and the other into one of the two 5-Gigabit ports on the switch.
- You would connect your QNAP to the switch using LAG, but I would need to know more about your NAS. How many ethernet ports does it have? Does it support static and/or LACP LAGs? Does it have any Multi-Gigabit ports?
At any rate, I think you understand a little better what you should be aiming for here. Right?
BTW, I have an R9000 connected to a GS728TX via an SFP+ DAC cable rated a 10GB. Then my Synology NAS is connected to the GS728TX via two 1 Gigabit ethernet ports using LACP LAG.
So I know exactly what you are aiming for.
I also have the MS510TX just waiting to be place between my GS728TX and your RAX120. All I need is for you to ship it to me. PM me for my address, lol :smileylol:
My NAS is older so it only has 2 gigabit ports. It is QNAP 419+.and has full 803.3ad link aggregation. I am sure I have LAG setup on the NAS(will verify) and found instructions on how to setup LAG on the switch. I have not done this before. I will eventually have to upgrade the NAS but that wont be until later this year or next year.
As for the RAX120, I am enjoying it. Much better than the X8. However, I am not able to take full advantage as I only have a 1 gig connection. Lookign to upgrade this also.
I have the Motorola MB8600 which supports WAN aggregation like your SB8200.
Your SB8200 has 3 GB of RAM though :smileysurprised:
You are going to have one heck of a setup.
Actually, I have the CM1100. I hear there is a CM1200 coming out shortly. Not sure what the difference is.
On the router, I see there is a RAX200 coming out also. Sounds interesting but may be overkill.
I will try the router for another week and if I dont like it, will send it over.
Have you run any concurrent speed tests? You should achieve at least 1000 Mbps, but I'd imagine more like 1200 Mbps. You need to run a speed test on two fast devices though... like two laptops/PCs/etc.
Who is your ISP?
Well it doesn't matter. The CM1100 has two lan ports and the CM1200 has four, but the RAX120 and RAX200 only support two members in their LAGs.
The RAX120 has a 5 Gbe port, but the RAX200 only has a 2.5 Gbe.
The RAX120 is Qualcomm and the RAX200 is Broadcom so you can't really compare CPUs.
However, IMHO the RAX120 is all around the better router.
I only ran on one, my iMac and got 911mb. I have Comcast and was hoping for faster. Not sure why.
It's not going to happen. ~940 Mbps is the max speed you can achieve over a single gigabit port. LAG provides failover, load balancing, etc, but it doesn't automagically combine the ports into one big pipe.
Run two speed tests concurrently and see what you're really able to get from your connection :smileywink:
Run a speed test on your phone using the Speedtest app. Actually, do the same on your iMac. Get the Speedtest app from the macOS App Store. The apps run much more smoothly, and achieve higher throughput, than when running speed tests in the browser.
I got 831mb on my imac and 95 mb on my ipad(through wifi). similar numbers to when I run thte imac by itself. Not sure I see the benefit with wan aggregation connected.
My area doesn't have over provisioning on 1gig service. I max out at 940-950 (total download over 2 hardwired devices) whether or not I'm using link aggregation. Doesn't mean they won't in the future but they aren't currently.
Comcast doesn’t over provision either.
Tge switch arrived today and I am setting it up. I did upgrade my NAS to Ts-473 with 4 lAN ports. I am setting up LAG and it looks like I can only setup on ports 1-4 as they are the same? Is that correct? Aldo I have the cable from router connected to port 9. Is that correct? Thanks.
- Based on our conversations, I suggest you treat the MS510TX as your network core.
Ports 9 and 10 don’t have to be used as uplinks to your network core. They can be used for connecting anything, such as your NAS (especially if you purchase a PCIe card for 10G connectivity).
I suggest you choose which ports to use on the switch by using their max connection speeds as a guide.
For example, your NAS Ethernet ports only support 1G, so use ports 1-4 on the MS510TX as their max connection speeds are 1G as well.
Using port 9 to connect to the RAX120 could be considered a waste as the max speed of the RAX120 multi-gig port is 5G and port 9’s max speed is 10G. That port should be saved for 10G connectivity.
We have discussed how to connect your modem to your router AND how to connect your router and NAS to your switch. What else is on your network?
The MS510TX supports layer 3 static routes. This is another reason why I suggested you get this switch. Using layer 3 static routes is a simple way to provide segmentation of your network with internal routing through the switch – reserving the router for external traffic routing only, making your entire network more efficient.
I’ll post more on that subject next.
