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RAXE500 The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet
I am in the process of configuring my RAXE500 to join my LAN. It currently acts as its own separate LAN - with internet being provided by another router.
I have internet in my house balanced by the QNAP QHora 301-W, which takes in sources from 4Gbps Hyperfibre, 4G, and VDSL connections.
The RAXE500 accesses LAN via a 2.5gbps ethernet cable to a D-Link switch connected to the QHora 301-W.
The RAXE500 offers better signal and faster speeds than the QHora 301-W which is why its WLAN features are used. However, I plan to add three switches to this router, I already own and use these switches, however, want to change the layout, I own 2 GS308EP switches and 1 GS105 switch.
I am going to change it so that the GS105 switch uses LAN1, the 2nd GS308EP switch uses LAN2, and the 1st GS308 EP Switch uses LAN3+LAN4 through LAG.
I originally hoped to set the RAXE500's IP address to that assigned by the QHora 301-W - 192.168.100.132 (rather than the 10.0.0.1 IP address the router set itself up with to avoid duplication), and then set the upper half of DHCP client IDs to be used by the RAXE500 (151-254) and keep the lower half for use by the QHora 301-W (2-150). That way, the devices connected to the switches would be assigned an IP address for the wider LAN, not just the LAN that the RAXE500 is part of.
However, if I attempt to change the IP address of the router to that set by the QHora-301W, The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet appears, and I have very little idea what this means, and all other articles on it have not helped me in any way.
If anyone knows how to solve this issue without switching the router to AP mode - I would be endlessly grateful. I can't switch it to AP mode due to aggregation of the 3+4 ethernet ports as well as QoS.
Also, I am planning to buy the Orbi Pro WiFi 6 (SXK80B4) as the household's mesh system, if I attempted to have it with the same IP address as assigned to the router by the QHora 301-W, would the same issue as with the RAXE500 present itself.
Re: RAXE500 The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet
Hi Everyone.
Sorry it took so long to get a response out.
Shortly after the last message, I spoke to Netgear support — who agreed with me that it was inconsistent that the feature was disabled, but the manual did not specify that it should have been disabled.
So, we climbed up their levels of technicians, and eventually, I was notified that they had changed the setting for the next update, and last I checked it worked fine.
What's the most annoying is that I had to buy a 2.5G netgear switch in the meantime because of the wait.
Now I just use it as a 6GHz router in my computer room. It works great with my iPhone 14 Pro Max and HP ZBook Firefly G10 which both support the band.
Thanks for all your help previously. I have only responded to this now as I have opened another support discussion on my Orbi Pro Mesh system.
Re: RAXE500 The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet
Two routers can NOT be in same subnet when in router mode. So you'll need to use a different LAN subnet (10.0.0.1 or 192.168.1.1) on the RAXE router or configure the RAXE for AP Mode. Then the RAXE would be on same subnet with no duplication.
Re: RAXE500 The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet
These two groups of IP addresses are still in two complete different networks - in the sense of IP sub-networking, and in the sense of a single broadcast domain for the DHCP which resides on two different routers. This will never make a single network.
Can't see any reference for such a limitation in the fine documentation at least. Earlier routers like the R9000 are certainly supporting a LAG spanning two Ethernet ports - typically for LAN usage, also in AP mode. A little bit obsolete, considering we have a 10 GbE SFP+ port available there, too.
Remains the question to be asked what is so sexy to have both a 5 GHz and a 6 GHz 4x4 radio - what is on paper much more bandwidth of what you can handle over the available 2.5 GbE or one pair of 1 GbE link port in a LAG. Much better balanced - and much less problems with the consumer NAT router design - would be a WAX630E, also with one 2.5 GbE or two GbE links in a LAG. Admit only 5 GHZ 4x4 and a 6 GHz 2x2 radio - for about 300 US$ (compared to the RAXE500 with a price tag of almost 500 US$). Or do you really have to cover that much wireless to wireless bandwidth?
Neither excluded as per the fine manual nor as per the referred KB entry stating it should not be available. Trouble is that these devices are primarily designed and tested for router operations...
No obvious reasons, because the LAG feature (aka Ethernet Port Aggregation) is readily available on all Nighthawk routers where Ethernet port aggregation is available, regardless of router or the AP mode.
As @oliversimpson owns an almost new RAXE500, one would guess Netgear support is available, and -should- be more knowledgeable than the old geeks here. At least we have provided sufficient information to proof 8-)
Might help if you told people what the ultimate aim of your quest is.
The OP want to configure a LAG (using ADVANCED > Advanced Setup > Ethernet Port Aggregation) wit the RAXE500 in AP mode.
That describe what they want to do in the router's settings. not what they want to achieve.
The two are by no means identical.
PS Why is your reply such a mess, with all those repeated bits and pieces? Another artefact of Netgear's hopeless implementation of the Lithium community software?
Re: RAXE500 The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet
My ultimate quest is to link all of my gigabit switches, of which there are three, through the RAXE500.
I want my first GS308EP to connect to the RAXE500 through LAN2.
I want my second GS308EP through aggregate (803.3ad) to LAN3 and LAN4. This is because of the bandwidth of the devices connected - multiple gigabit hungry computers, a NAS with aggregate of 2x 1GbE connection, among other devices. When the router was in router mode, 803.3ad mode was on for both the switch and the router and it improved bandwidth and increased the average speeds that each device was getting individually, but the computers could not use the printers and be easily/centrally managed.
I then want my GS305 to connect to the RAXE500 through LAN1.
In my opinion, this simplifies the layout of switches going from the router. Since the QHora 301-W has two of its 4 1GbE LAN ports used as WAN for load-balancing, even if I put one or two of the switches onto it, the other one or two would have to go off the RAXE500 anyway.
The 301-W does not support 803.3ad which if it did would solve all the problems.
Then, if all DHCP ids are assigned from the 301-W, that way I just have one simplified LAN - with an AP as the RAXE500 and then APs with the Orbi, with all devices connecting being managed by the 301-W.
This then allows all devices - printers etc to be used by any device connected anywhere on the LAN.
Appreciate the help so far and apologise for my late responses. I will try if I get a chance to give the Netgear support people a call - and see if they can offer any advice.
As I sit writing this, I do consider that hosting a VPN from the 301-W, and then connecting the RAXE500 to that 301-W's VPN (tricking it to thinking it's tunnelling halfway around the world but it is just a 2m Cat8 Cable) and that way all of the devices should* see each other?
All though I'd prefer that to be a short term solution lol.
Re: RAXE500 The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet
Amazing, considering you have a great router at hand, with sufficient bandwidth and two 10 GbE/MultiGig ports - both or at least one unused as far as I understand.
If I have to add more ports and bandwidth I would look into the various Netgear 10GbE/MultiGig switch offerings (in fact I have such an installation around a QHora-301W) or have an eye on the QHora-322 with three 10 GbE (MultiGig capable) and not less than six 2.5 GbE ports - because the Netgear PR60X is unfortunately limited to two WAN ports (sorry Netgear, we are talking for years now).
Not a secret: My home and a larger venue network I'm operating is built using Netgear WAX6xx on Netgear MS510TXUP (plus some XS728T/XS748T for legacy GbE copper Ethernet devices) switches with an mostly fiber backhaul. Playground does also contain a MS108EUP, GS308E, GS105PE, and some Essential APs like WAX214/214v2, WAX220 to help out the community members here.
Looking forward for the feedback of the Netgear support reply ref. RAX500E in AP mode and the link aggregation ideas.
Re: RAXE500 The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet
Hi Everyone.
Sorry it took so long to get a response out.
Shortly after the last message, I spoke to Netgear support — who agreed with me that it was inconsistent that the feature was disabled, but the manual did not specify that it should have been disabled.
So, we climbed up their levels of technicians, and eventually, I was notified that they had changed the setting for the next update, and last I checked it worked fine.
What's the most annoying is that I had to buy a 2.5G netgear switch in the meantime because of the wait.
Now I just use it as a 6GHz router in my computer room. It works great with my iPhone 14 Pro Max and HP ZBook Firefly G10 which both support the band.
Thanks for all your help previously. I have only responded to this now as I have opened another support discussion on my Orbi Pro Mesh system.
Shortly after the last message, I spoke to Netgear support — who agreed with me that it was inconsistent that the feature was disabled, but the manual did not specify that it should have been disabled.
So, we climbed up their levels of technicians, and eventually, I was notified that they had changed the setting for the next update, and last I checked it worked fine.
What's the most annoying is that I had to buy a 2.5G netgear switch in the meantime because of the wait.
Now I just use it as a 6GHz router in my computer room. It works great with my iPhone 14 Pro Max and HP ZBook Firefly G10 which both support the band.
Shortly after the last message, I spoke to Netgear support — who agreed with me that it was inconsistent that the feature was disabled, but the manual did not specify that it should have been disabled.
So, we climbed up their levels of technicians, and eventually, I was notified that they had changed the setting for the next update, and last I checked it worked fine.
What's the most annoying is that I had to buy a 2.5G netgear switch in the meantime because of the wait.
Now I just use it as a 6GHz router in my computer room. It works great with my iPhone 14 Pro Max and HP ZBook Firefly G10 which both support the band.
Thanks for all your help previously. I have only responded to this now as I have opened another support discussion on my Orbi Pro Mesh system.
