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Differnce between WiFi 1 / 2 /3?

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Differnce between WiFi 1 / 2 /3?

Hi,

I am using an SRR60 (V2.5.5.100) with 2 Satellites and i have a question regarding the differnet wifis. I don't get it 🙂

 

Wifi 1 :

Why is it the most secure one? 

Why can't i disable it?

Why is it not possible to separation the SSID?

What is 5GHz-2 Channel ? And why can I not change it?

 

Wifi2 and 3:

Where is the difference, are there any?

Why is it not possible to change the channels.

Allow IoT devices to see each other and access my local network

Is it possible to prohibit the internet for one of the Wifis?

It makes more sense (at least for me) to allow the access to my local network (for example home-automation server) but prohibit the connection to the internet!

 

a lot of question, a lot to learn for me 🙂

 

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schumaku
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Re: Differnce between WiFi 1 / 2 /3?

Halli @Retired_Member 

 

Aware it won't help you much, trying anyway:

 


@Retired_Member wrote:

I am using an SRR60 (V2.5.5.100) with 2 Satellites and i have a question regarding the differnet wifis. I don't get it 🙂

 

Wifi 1 :

Why is it the most secure one?
Why can't i disable it?
...

Wifi2 and 3:

Where is the difference, are there any?


The Orbi Pro design is linked to some use case developed at the green table, with a pretty fixed ideas in mind. It never became a freely configurable business system you and me would expect.

Not sure what you understand as "disable" - disabling the wireless access to the LAN1, or disable the LAN1 network completely?

 


@Retired_Member wrote:

Why is it not possible to separation the SSID?


One SSID does connect to one network, not two. 2.4 GHz wireless clients cna connect to the same network 5 GHz clients would - and for the most flexibility, the single SSID does allow capable (Mesh-aware, more or less modern) wireless clients - especially mobile ones - to the best possible coverage.

 


@Retired_Member wrote:

What is 5GHz-2 Channel ? And why can I not change it?


A screenshot would help.

 

Wild idea - you see this on a status page sorted by Wireless1/SSID1/WiFi1/LAN1, Wireless2/SSID2/WiFi2/LAN2, Wireless3/SSID3/WiFi3/LAN3, with a 2.4 GHz and a 5 GHz channel lised below each?

 

There is only one 2.4 GHz and one 5 GHz radio on each device (router, each satellite). All three wireless networks (Wireless1/SSID1/WiFi1/LAN1, Wireless2/SSID2/WiFi2/LAN2, Wireless3/SSID3/WiFi3/LAN3) are virtual SSIDs operating on the same radio, so the same channel is used for all three.

 


@Retired_Member wrote:

Why is it not possible to change the channels.


Probably the same reason as above?

 

When I have it right, the 5 GHz backhaul is fixed and can't be changed (I admit hacks exist, but in general it should be fine) - it's a channel allowing the highest power in the regulatory area (ETSI/Europe - based on the country setting) and does span certainly 80 MHz, so four 20 MHz wide channels. For interference reasons, the user facing fronthaul can't be set near to the same channels, so the selection of channels - its setting is under Wireless1 - is rather limited. Especially for us in Europe where we odn't have the FCC named upper U-NII-3 channels (from 149..161 [resp. up to 173] available, as these are reserved for SRD (short range devices, max. 25 mW) here.

 

The Orbi Pro system (and the consumer Orbi systems) can use the 2.4 GHz band as alternate backhaul where the 5 GHz backhaul coverage isn't sufficient. This might be the reason you will see the same 2.4 GHz (default: Auto) channels on the router and the satellite - the 2.4 GHz radios are shared for both fronthaul and backhaul then.

 


@Retired_Member wrote:
Allow IoT devices to see each other and access my local network

Is it possible to prohibit the internet for one of the Wifis?

It makes more sense (at least for me) to allow the access to my local network (for example home-automation server) but prohibit the connection to the internet!


Other users want isolate the IoJ stuff completely from the home/work/main network, but allow Internet due to cloud IoJ solutions.

 

The thing I'm completely missing on the Orbi Pro is kind of a configurable "access matrix", so at least WIreless2 and Wireless3 could be flexibly granted or denied access to Wireless1 and the Internet. Technically not difficult, as Orbi Pro is making use of an internal asymmetric VLAN config based on L2 VLANs (not 802.1q). 

 

This should be more or less on the point, I might be wrong in some minor details as I don't have a Orbi Pro test system available, and havn't used an Orbi Pro for a longer time. Hope this helps to understand things a little bit better..

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