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ncnjeremy
Oct 20, 2022Aspirant
Help with the correct setup at my home and Shop
So I'm hoping this is the correct place to get help here. It's been a while since I've had to do much networking and there are lots of improvements since then. I live in a rural area and only was able to get high speed internet with Verizon 5G home. Only problem was that the 5G coverage is about a mile away from our house. So I was able to talk them into letting me get it anyhow. Which one rep said if we live within a couple miles of 5G then it should still work. So it does. Not the best obviously. But it works well as long as your close enough to it. Which is where my problem comes in. My home is about 2000 Sq ft and L shaped. Also, I have a detached garage that I use as my 3D printer shop with lots of printers running 24-7. I ended up having to put my Verizon 5G modem in my printer shop. Then I attached the orbi router to that. And inside the house approximately 30-40 ft away I have an extended near the main TV. I'm gonna need another because I keep dropping connection on the other side of the "L" shaped house in the kids rooms. What I would like to know is what is the best router and satellite combo for my setup? If I need, I can run an ethernet underground from my shop to the house and directly connect the router and the satellite. If that's needed. Here is what I bought and have been using....
NETGEAR Orbi Pro WiFi 6 Mini Mesh System (SXK30) | Router with 1 Satellite Extender for Business or Home | VLAN, QoS | Coverage up to 4,000 sq. ft., 40 Devices | AX1800 802.11 AX (up to 1.8Gbps).
If I can get a recommendation on what the best way for me to set this up I would be greatly appreciative. I can get a new different router if I need and satellite. My sister may be better use with this one at her home that is smaller and dont have the need for great signal outside in a different building and also all through the house. Thank you in advance!
NETGEAR Orbi Pro WiFi 6 Mini Mesh System (SXK30) | Router with 1 Satellite Extender for Business or Home | VLAN, QoS | Coverage up to 4,000 sq. ft., 40 Devices | AX1800 802.11 AX (up to 1.8Gbps).
If I can get a recommendation on what the best way for me to set this up I would be greatly appreciative. I can get a new different router if I need and satellite. My sister may be better use with this one at her home that is smaller and dont have the need for great signal outside in a different building and also all through the house. Thank you in advance!
9 Replies
- FURRYe38Guru - Experienced User
Would be good if you could draw up a diagram or top down lay out of your home and garage area and indicate where the modem is located and your proposed ideas of where the Orbi system placement would be on this diagram for us to take a look at.
30 feet or more is recommended in between SXR and SXS📡 to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite 📡- JohnD333ApprenticeJeremy,
I agree with Furry.
That said, I suspect you are going to need a bit stronger mesh system. There have been several iterations of better radio strengths since that (and my SX80). A lot of the hoopla is about those being able to distribute giga pop speeds that come from your provider. Neither you nor I have anything near that.
As Furry and the article suggest, construction materials and distance play a big path of what kind of signal the satellite will receive from the master. The weaker that is, the less the satellite can forward to your devices.
The cell signal determines where the 5G modem is even if you can mount an external antenna pointed at the cell tower. That external antennae with or without amplifier can massively improve the strength of the cell tower into the 5G modem IF your modem has ports for an external antenna. The 5GStore.Com is a great resource for cell signal amplification equipment, but let’s leave that alone for now.
I have concrete exterior walls, and some metal stud interior walls. Windows are your friend when trying to penetrate any structure, even wood frame which is much better than concrete or metal.
The goal is shooting signal from Master to Satellite via windows, but not at the expense of substantially greater distance between them, or a substantially greater distances between the Satellite and the devices you will want to access the Satellite.
It is well worth the effort to get the master Orbi to a window in your shop if you have one. Even if that means you run quality ethernet cables from the 5G modem to the Orbi Master and similar cables from the Master back to your 3Dprinter. If you have multiple devices next to the printer, simply add a simple switch and hardwire those devices. If you have mobile devices in the garage that need WiFi access to the Master that is not acceptable, that window location for the Master needs to be revisited.
A map layout with approximate distances, window locations, and construction materials would be helpful. If that map and other info does not look prohibitive, I would try using your SX30 and see results before buying another setup. Although I think you will probably end up there anyway, you will at least be marginally or completely operational while you research alternatives.
I do not know your location or it’s attributes impact on the feasibility of using the Starlink satellite system as your provider. It suited my open field in NH well in a heavily treed area that severely cut down cell signal between me and all cell towers. Starlink’s initial systems did not allow additional routers but I understand that this has been relaxed somewhat. The faster speeds and more reliable signal you can supply to your mesh system the happier you will be. But again, I would get the Verizon 5G as is up and running before venturing into external 5G antennas or an alternative internet provider.
One last thought regarding multiple satellites. Each satellite will seek out the best signal be it from the master or another satellite. You cannot control that connection, and while a clear line of sight Master to Sat to Sat might appear logical and advantageous to you, the Orbi Sat may connect to the Master through walls with only a “Fair” signal that cannot be improved upon without an updated/stronger radio version of the Mesh.
Looking forward to a map of some sort.- plemansGuru - Experienced User
A couple questions/things.
1. if you can run the wire from shop to home, go for it. Much better backhaul and it'd allow you to have the router in shop and satellites in home with the best backhaul you can get. Its not something you'll regret doing as its the best option for connecting buildings.
2. is there a reason you're choosing the business class setup for your home? Tends to cost a bit more and isn't always worth the $ for home use if you're needing multiple satellites?
3. What actual speeds do you get from the verizon router? Its pointless to recommend the best mesh system if you're only pulling 40mbps. Then you'd be fine with getting an older system that you could add more satellites to for cheaper. But if you're pulling 150mbps (or even better) from the verizon box, it might be worth a better system.
4. I'm a fan of the triband systems if you're planning on using the wireless mesh. The wired backhaul from shop to home is still the best option between buildings but once you're internal to the building, a decent mesh with the dedicated wireless backhaul is pretty solid and a better option than the dual bands when needing multiple satellites.
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