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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

JoeJoeJoeJoe
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Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to ONT

I currently have a Orbi RBR50 working with CenturyLink fiber.  Requires PPPoE login and VLAN 201 tagging.  My Orbi is direct connected to the CenturyLink ONT via Ethernet WAN port.

 

Questions on setting up the Orbi PRO SXR80

- PPPoE setup with user name / password is same as RBR50

- The Orbi PRO VLAN setup isn't obivous:

 

- There are 5 Ethernet ports shown (Advanced/VLAN page), do I assume the left most is the WAN port and right 4 are the LAN?

- Out of the box, the Orbi Pro has default VLANs setup for Default (1), Guest (10), Employee (20), IoT (30)

- Is there someone to configure the VLAN 201 on the WAN port and then assume? all Internet traffic is routed to WiFi/LAN ports and still have the seperate VLANs for the WiFi/LAN ports?

- The Acces or Trunk options on each port isn't obivous to me either.

 

I tried adding a new VLAN with VLAN ID of 201, but was greyed out if I tried to assign to any of the ports.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

 

 

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JoeJoeJoeJoe
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

Well I was able to get Internet access via Wireless 1 or 2 (note didn't select the VLAN box on any of the wireless settings).  I set the employee VLAN to 201 under the advanced menu and assigned to far left port.

setup_wifi.png

I CAN'T get Internet access on any of the router's wired ports.  I tried setting all the wired ports to employee (201) or default (1) and in both cases no Internet on wired ports.

 

What is the trick to get wired ports to work?

 

Also still don't know how I can use VLAN seperation with the CenturyLink using VLAN 201.  Any help here?

 

Neither of these settings allowed the wired ports to have Internet access:
vlan_2.pngvlan_1.png

 

 

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CrimpOn
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O


@JoeJoeJoeJoe wrote:

I currently have a Orbi RBR50 working with CenturyLink fiber.  Requires PPPoE login and VLAN 201 tagging.  My Orbi is direct connected to the CenturyLink ONT via Ethernet WAN port.

 

Questions on setting up the Orbi PRO SXR80

- PPPoE setup with user name / password is same as RBR50

- The Orbi PRO VLAN setup isn't obivous:


Oh, my.  I sure hope this Orbi purchase qualifies for support (either the "90 day complimentary" or Insight?)  I need a stiff drink already from trying to decipher the VLAN section of the user manual: https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/SXK80/Orbi_Pro_WiFi_6_UM_EN.pdf   "Not obvious" is an understatement.

 

Is the goal to support IP Televisions?  If not, I think the VLAN201 business is not relevant.

 

I have a suspicion that 'VLAN' may have different meanings in the residential Orbi and the professional Orbi environments.

Residential Orbi VLAN was pretty clearly intended as a way to enable iptv for customers where the ISP provides IP Television using VLAN tags and the only way to attach IP Televisions was to the ethernet ports.  The key section in the Orbi user manual is that LAN ports that are assigned to a VLAN "A bridge with a port group prevents packets that are sent between the IPTV device and the router’s Internet port from being processed through the router’s Network Address Translation (NAT) service."
  Orbi users have attempted to make the original Orbi implement VLAN tagging for years and been totally stymied.  It's there only for television service.

 

I have no idea what the Orbi Pro VLAN scheme is intended to accomplish besides keeping groups of devices from seeing each other.  Reading the user manual only made my head hurt.

 

In the corporate environment, VLAN's are used to segregate network traffic while using the same switch to switch links. Switch ports are often assigned to VLANs and every packet that comes from a device on that port is tagged so that it can be sent upstream. (every packet destined to the device has the tag removed at the swtich port).  Designing VLAN groups and providing ways to get into and out of them is a major network engineering task.

 

 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

Netgear has set up a community forum specifically for the Orbi Pro products. Most of the people who watch that forum are more likely to have experience with Orbi Pro and know how to work it better than those of us who follow this router forum. Might be more likely to find someone who has a solution if the question is posted there:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-Pro-WiFi-for-Small-Business/bd-p/en-business-pro-wifi


Please use this link to the main forum product list to review and choose where to make your posts. 
https://community.netgear.com/t5/NETGEAR-Forum/ct-p/en-netgear


Thank you.


@JoeJoeJoeJoe wrote:

I currently have a Orbi RBR50 working with CenturyLink fiber.  Requires PPPoE login and VLAN 201 tagging.  My Orbi is direct connected to the CenturyLink ONT via Ethernet WAN port.

 

Questions on setting up the Orbi PRO SXR80

- PPPoE setup with user name / password is same as RBR50

- The Orbi PRO VLAN setup isn't obivous:

 

- There are 5 Ethernet ports shown (Advanced/VLAN page), do I assume the left most is the WAN port and right 4 are the LAN?

- Out of the box, the Orbi Pro has default VLANs setup for Default (1), Guest (10), Employee (20), IoT (30)

- Is there someone to configure the VLAN 201 on the WAN port and then assume? all Internet traffic is routed to WiFi/LAN ports and still have the seperate VLANs for the WiFi/LAN ports?

- The Acces or Trunk options on each port isn't obivous to me either.

 

I tried adding a new VLAN with VLAN ID of 201, but was greyed out if I tried to assign to any of the ports.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

 

 




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JoeJoeJoeJoe
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

Thanks FURRYe38 - I posted my question / issue in the Orbi Pro small business forum.

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-Pro-WiFi-for-Small-Business/Help-on-configuring-Wired-ports-fo... 

 

I have been able to get the WiFi to work, but still having issues with wired port Internet access.

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FURRYe38
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

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racoon
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

I'm having the same issue, plus the internet connection is limited at 130 Mbps instead of 1000mbps
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FURRYe38
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

Please make a new post in the appropriate forum. If you have Orbi Pro, please post there. 


@racoon wrote:
I'm having the same issue, plus the internet connection is limited at 130 Mbps instead of 1000mbps

 

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FURRYe38
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racoon
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Re: Moving from Orbi RBR50 or Orbi PRO SXR80 - CenturyLink (fiber) VLAN setup question - direct to O

i cant post on that community

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FURRYe38
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