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New Online Update 4.6.3.16 (RBR850/RBS850)
Just did a downgrade from 4.6.3.9 to 3.2.18.1, factory resetted and I see Netgear are pushing an update automatically to 4.6.3.16. (see attached screenshot) This firmware is not available as an o...
FURRYe38 wrote:v3.2.11.2 was last version with telnet in the debug.htm UI.
jayeshm wrote:Thanks.
I will throw it up in my guest room and see how it holds up for a few days.
Just for checking, if one has to stick with a 3.xx firmware which one do you personally recommend?
Firstly thanks for all the help furry. You have been patiently helping everyone here, and while i was being sarcastic earlier, your help is much appreciated.
Using PFsense i threw up on an old nuc, i was able to block all updates and manually shift to 3.2.18xx which is the last v3 update. So far it seems to work. Taking your advice i reset them entirely, kept them off for half a day, and then plugged them back in and added them back. I think one of my satellites is a bit wonky, since it oddly loses connection once in a while, but the rest of them seem to be holding up fine.
I have been able to successfully block updates via pfsense, since whenever i check via firmware updates manually, it gives a connection error. I looked up all the names suggested here in the various threads and added all of them to a small blocklist.
Seanh77 wrote:how did you revert? my previous solutions were to change back as well but i could only revert sats and not router(which still solved problems). however, i just reverted my sats now and after resetting everything they are updated back to latest again, so revert did not stick....
to revert the RBR just edit the html page after manually selecting the new firmware. The "yes" button is just hidden (change "display: none" to "display: block")
interesting, i wish i knew how to do that, not sure how to edit html. will they not just force the new version back on? i reverted my sats back to 3.18 which solved this for me previously, but i just did it now(sats only), and netgear pushed it back to new version within a few mins. my only prob currently is poor connection on several of my sats, which by looking at orbi app i can attribute to not daisy chaining anymore, they all want to connect directly with router(even when giving it time overnight to adjust). On 3.18 everything has always worked perfectly. i wish i could get everything back to 3.18 and block netgear from updating it.
thx for info! however, seems moot as they keep updating back to 4.16. i guess i will live with my sats having poor connection for now as others seem to have more serious problems and all my devices are still working. i have a system with 2 sats and a system with 10 sats, from what i can tell all my "poor" sat status' stem from the orbis not daisy chaining as they did before, they all want to connect directly to router(obviously i am talking about the wireless sats, not the ones i have hard wired). only good thing is this introduced me to this blog, as netgear is too painful to reach and talk to, and you guys seem way smarter!!
If you can do the revert and block then your system won't update back to v4.
Another alternative solution is to use a 2ndary up stream router in front of the RBR and block NGs update services there.
Seanh77 wrote:
thx for info! however, seems moot as they keep updating back to 4.16. i guess i will live with my sats having poor connection for now as others seem to have more serious problems and all my devices are still working. i have a system with 2 sats and a system with 10 sats, from what i can tell all my "poor" sat status' stem from the orbis not daisy chaining as they did before, they all want to connect directly to router(obviously i am talking about the wireless sats, not the ones i have hard wired). only good thing is this introduced me to this blog, as netgear is too painful to reach and talk to, and you guys seem way smarter!!
Seanh77 wrote:thx for info! however, seems moot as they keep updating back to 4.16. i guess i will live with my sats having poor connection for now as others seem to have more serious problems and all my devices are still working. i have a system with 2 sats and a system with 10 sats, from what i can tell all my "poor" sat status' stem from the orbis not daisy chaining as they did before, they all want to connect directly to router(obviously i am talking about the wireless sats, not the ones i have hard wired). only good thing is this introduced me to this blog, as netgear is too painful to reach and talk to, and you guys seem way smarter!!
Have you tried reducing the transmit power? With 10 sats you've probably got tons of overlapping coverage. If you cut power it might force daisy chain if a home run back to RBS would be too weak.
they are spread out over 50 acres(around 200 ft between sats), worked perfect on 3.18. 8 sats are hardwired to separate cabins and only two are wireless. this only happened after i updated to 4.9. then when i forced sats back to 3.18 worked perfect again. now netgear's forced update to 4.16 has caused two wireless sats to connect to router instead of nearby hardwired sats that they connected to before, essentially refusing to daisy chain as before. when i went home to my other property i have two sats, and same problem, sat on first floor refuses to connect to sat on second floor as it did before, insists on connecting to router directly on third floor, seems i have no daisy chain abilities after firmware 4 updates. two locations in two diff states, same issue. backhaul shows as poor when previously were all good for 1yr plus. tried resets, factory erase, changing channels, changing power, etc. nothing helps. all devices still connect and work but with poor backhaul status. could be worse but frustrating when all was perfect before. now my only real problem is one wireless sat that womnt connect most of time as it is trying to reach router when there is a wired sat 30-40 ft away that it connected to fine before.
thx for all your help, i unfortunately do not have the expertise to know how to block netgear from updating me, i wish i did, as i know for a fact 3.18 works perfectly for both my locations, rbr850 w/2 wireless sats, and rbr850 w/8 hardwired and 2 wireless sats.
does reducing power even affect backhaul? i thought it only affected wifi transmit power for devices.....
