RBK750 Series - Firmware Update v4.6.3.7

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Hello, this morning I found myself automatically updated router and the two satellites to version 4.6.3.16_2.0.51 Why is there not on the Netgear site ?? Is a beta version automatically installed ?? Thanks for the replies! ORBI RBK753

Version 4.6.3.16 is there now and Netgear is not being totally transparent with thier release notes. According to the release notes the only things addresses were security and the speed test inaccuracy.

Sometimes NG pushes FW out to systems before they put it up on there download site. 

A beta WAS available to those who asked for it. 

This is NOT a beta if auto updated. 

Are you having problems with v16 after it was installed? Be sure to do a full power OFF of the system for 2 minutes then back ON. 

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Mastra11 wrote:

Hello, this morning I found myself automatically updated router and the two satellites to version 4.6.3.16_2.0.51 Why is there not on the Netgear site ?? Is a beta version automatically installed ?? Thanks for the replies! ORBI RBK753

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Be sure to power them OFF fully for 2 minutes then back ON. 

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Mastra11 wrote:
Hello and thanks for the answer, now I have not yet restarted router and satellites, tomorrow if I can I try to restart router and satellites one at a time. But can you tell me what better this firmware than on the site there is? Thank you

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orbiuser1975 wrote:

I updated to V4.6.3.16_2.0.51 and still have poor speed compared to the results provided by Ookla on the router (about 100 Mbps less), and basically a useless guest network, same as before the update. I haven't done a "reset" yet, but will try that and update shortly.

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Update:

Finally having a free moment to do a full reset, with no kids needing to do homework, wifey not needing to work at home, and myself not away from home, the results are in.  The stability is better, and the Guest network is more functional, at least all my IoT devices seem connected. The wireless speeds (< 200 Mbps) are still lower than expected (300 Mbps), but if I wasn't looking/testing, I probably wouldn't notice.  I honestly couldn't tell you what it was before this firmware mess, but the instability prompted a thorough look. I do see 300/300 on a wired connection.

I did do some testing before enabling the Guest network and changing from the default SSID(s) and speeds were better, but still not optimal.  After enabling Guest, they were slightly worst, and allowing all my WiFi devices to connect by changing back to my chosen SSID, the speeds dropped even more.  I suppose the router being under load has something to do with it.

I'll live with this for now, and keep my fingers crossed that NG doesn't push another botched update.  I'll also be looking for a sale this holiday season on another brand WiFi-6 mesh system...

Guest Network really isn't meant for IoT devices, more like short term phone, pad and laptop use BY "guests". Not sure if GN is really built or designed for having many longterm IoT devices connected. Something to ask NG about and confirm. 

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orbiuser1975 wrote:

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orbiuser1975 wrote:

I updated to V4.6.3.16_2.0.51 and still have poor speed compared to the results provided by Ookla on the router (about 100 Mbps less), and basically a useless guest network, same as before the update. I haven't done a "reset" yet, but will try that and update shortly.

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Update:

 

Finally having a free moment to do a full reset, with no kids needing to do homework, wifey not needing to work at home, and myself not away from home, the results are in.  The stability is better, and the Guest network is more functional, at least all my IoT devices seem connected. The wireless speeds (< 200 Mbps) are still lower than expected (300 Mbps), but if I wasn't looking/testing, I probably wouldn't notice.  I honestly couldn't tell you what it was before this firmware mess, but the instability prompted a thorough look. I do see 300/300 on a wired connection.

 

I did do some testing before enabling the Guest network and changing from the default SSID(s) and speeds were better, but still not optimal.  After enabling Guest, they were slightly worst, and allowing all my WiFi devices to connect by changing back to my chosen SSID, the speeds dropped even more.  I suppose the router being under load has something to do with it.

 

I'll live with this for now, and keep my fingers crossed that NG doesn't push another botched update.  I'll also be looking for a sale this holiday season on another brand WiFi-6 mesh system...

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FURRYe38 wrote:

Guest Network really isn't meant for IoT devices, more like short term phone, pad and laptop use BY "guests". Not sure if GN is really built or designed for having many longterm IoT devices connected. Something to ask NG about and confirm. 

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IMHO, that would be another NG shortcoming and wasn't an issue prior to the firmware update. I could be wrong, but I think you will find that using the Guest network for IoT devices is a pretty standard practice, especially since most SOHO devices don't offer beyond the primary SSID and Guest SSID.

Well, I beleve the practice was broght up as standard by users as we saw in the past that users had problems getting IoT to connect to the main SSID network. Users found the they would connect to Guest Network and the work around populated into what users call "standard" practice though I presume its probably not what the wifi community or router mfrs actually inteaded for GN. 

Over all there is problems on v4 so if your not getting good operation with v4 loaded, contact NG support, revert back to v3 or find something else that works for you. Not much else that can be done on this here in the forums and were hitting a wall with v4. NG needs to review this and the ball is in there court. 

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FURRYe38 wrote:

Well, I beleve the practice was broght up as standard by users as we saw in the past that users had problems getting IoT to connect to the main SSID network. Users found the they would connect to Guest Network and the work around populated into what users call "standard" practice though I presume its probably not what the wifi community or router mfrs actually inteaded for GN. 

 

Over all there is problems on v4 so if your not getting good operation with v4 loaded, contact NG support, revert back to v3 or find something else that works for you. Not much else that can be done on this here in the forums and were hitting a wall with v4. NG needs to review this and the ball is in there court. 

 

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Who knows, I came to use GN for security purposes, like my kids random friends showing up and hopping onto my main SSID with unknowingly hijacked devices. With security in mind, IoT devices are increasingly suspect and also don't "need" to be on the main SSID, thus going on the GN.

Concur, "we're hitting a wall with v4".

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orbiuser1975 wrote:

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FURRYe38 wrote:

Well, I beleve the practice was broght up as standard by users as we saw in the past that users had problems getting IoT to connect to the main SSID network. Users found the they would connect to Guest Network and the work around populated into what users call "standard" practice though I presume its probably not what the wifi community or router mfrs actually inteaded for GN. 

 

Over all there is problems on v4 so if your not getting good operation with v4 loaded, contact NG support, revert back to v3 or find something else that works for you. Not much else that can be done on this here in the forums and were hitting a wall with v4. NG needs to review this and the ball is in there court. 

 

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Who knows, I came to use GN for security purposes, like my kids random friends showing up and hopping onto my main SSID with unknowingly hijacked devices. With security in mind, IoT devices are increasingly suspect and also don't "need" to be on the main SSID, thus going on the GN.

 

Concur, "we're hitting a wall with v4".

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I have practiced placing the IoT devices on a vlan with internet only access on every router that I have used for the last 30+ years. I don't need cameras, light switches, etc providing a bridge to my main network.

The Orbi 6 literature says that the guest network provides a restricted network without access to the rest of the network. Since the Orbi doesn't allow me to set up a restricted vlan, I was using the guest network for that purpose under the 3.x firmware. Then the 4.x firmware killed the guest network and nothing would stay connected.

I've been running the .16 firmware for a few days now but haven't activated the guest network yet. I'll only re-enable one feature at a time to test whether the new firmware is stable. Today I connected a wired device to a satellite, so far it is working.

"The Orbi 6 literature says that the guest network provides a restricted network without access to the rest of the network. Since the Orbi doesn't allow me to set up a restricted vlan, I was using the guest network for that purpose under the 3.x firmware. Then the 4.x firmware killed the guest network and nothing would stay connected."

yes some things are the same but some things are differnet since before the bta i had lijkt 1/2 of my stuff not conect usually apple stuff, would find the wifi but not fully connect. 

Then after rebotingb one or 2 tiems all is ok.

for the guest i have been using the guest as you have. before the beta and after tyhe uipgrade had no issue wiht Guest and was abel to have anythign sign on to it. after the beta update speeds got better and did not notice any drop difference. 

for the main wifi did all the steps but factory resert and for a day or 2 had same issue then after that has been farily ok.