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Re: RBK750 missing Advanced WLAN Settings

KAMMAX
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RBK750 missing Advanced WLAN Settings

Hello,

I changed my Orbi RBK23 to an Orbi RBK753 and it turned out the RBK23 was better!

Because of the missing settings for Implicit-Beamforming, MU-Mimo and Fast Roaming

And i can tell you all why: this Features are turned off by default on the RBR750…!

Netgear what is going on?

Bring back this Options!!
They are only not shown in the Webpage.

Firmware Version: v4.6.14.3
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FURRYe38
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Re: RBK750 missing Advanced WLAN Settings

As mentioned already, those options are all automatic and were never seen or available in the WEB UI when Orbi AX systems first came out. I presume NG won't be making these available in the future as well. 

 

You shouldn't need to make changes with these anyways. Most all devices work with Orbi AX systems these days. 

@KAMMAX 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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schumaku
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Re: RBK750 missing Advanced WLAN Settings

These options are not made available to the user control on Orbi AX. They are enabled by default now (and for a long time).

 

 

 

 

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schumaku
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Re: RBK750 missing Advanced WLAN Settings

Core Technologies of Wi-Fi 6


Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) inherits all the advanced MIMO features of Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac) while also introducing several new features applicable to high-density deployment scenarios. This is why many formerly "advanced" WLAN settings disappeared.

 

DL MU-MIMO technology


MU-MIMO has been introduced since 802.11ac, but only DL 4x4 MU-MIMO is supported. In 802.11ax, the number of MU-MIMO is further increased, and DL 8x8 MU-MIMO is supported. DL OFDMA technology can be used to simultaneously perform MU-MIMO transmission and allocate different RUs for multi-user multiple-access transmission, which increases the concurrent access capacity of the system and balances the throughput.

 

UL MU-MIMO technology


UL MU-MIMO is an important feature introduced in 802.11ax. Similar to UL SU-MIMO, UL MU-MIMO uses the same channel resources to transmit data on multiple spatial streams by using multi-antenna technology of the transmitter and receiver. The only difference is that multiple data streams of UL MU-MIMO are from multiple users. 802.11ac and earlier 802.11 standards use UL SU-MIMO, that is, a user can receive data from only one user, which is inefficient in multi-user concurrent scenarios. After 802.11ax supports UL MU-MIMO, UL OFDMA technology is leveraged to allow MU-MIMO transmission and multi-user multiple-access transmission at the same time. This improves the transmission efficiency in multi-user concurrent scenarios and greatly reduces the application delay.

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FURRYe38
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Re: RBK750 missing Advanced WLAN Settings

As mentioned already, those options are all automatic and were never seen or available in the WEB UI when Orbi AX systems first came out. I presume NG won't be making these available in the future as well. 

 

You shouldn't need to make changes with these anyways. Most all devices work with Orbi AX systems these days. 

@KAMMAX 

My Setup ISP SparkLight | Internet Cable 1000↓/50↑ CAX80 Modem Mode  | Wifi Router RBKE963 and RBE973 | Switches NG GS105/8, GS308v3, GS110MX and XS505M | Additional NG HW: C7800/CAX30/CAX80/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi: CBK752, RBK50, RBK853, RBK752, RBK953, SXK30 | NightHawk: MK63, MK93S, R7000, R7800, R7960P, R8000, RAXE500, RAX120v2, RAX50v2, XR450/500/700/1000,

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CrimpOn
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Re: RBK750 missing Advanced WLAN Settings

The RBK753 Product Data Sheet describes these capabilities:

https://www.netgear.com/images/datasheet/orbi/RBK753.pdf 

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Fast Roaming is not mentioned in the Product Data Sheet, but is also "standard".

 

It often comes as a surprise when Netgear removes the ability to control features without explanation.  There are other examples such as the ability to enable/disable broadcasting the SSID.  (Present on the original Orbi. Absent on the AX products.)  The original Orbi had an option for devices on the guest network:

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This option disappeared with the AX product line.

 

 

 

I love my Orbi.
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