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RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

migsta
Apprentice

RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

I have an RBK853 with two satellites setup and working ok.  I say OK because the iOS app is unstable at times and Orbi itself loses internet connection and satellites dop - most noticable overnight where I see the pink/blue lights on the satellites and the router reports no internet connection.  With the myriad of routers and mesh units I've used, Orbi is the only system that is unstable in this manner but the speeds (when it works) are tops so I put up with it for now.  But it is Orbi that is unstable with the internet connection as no other mesh/router in my home have exhibited this internet loss.

 

But, how many satellites can this system currently support beyond the 2 that came with the RBK853?  Also, will the outdoor RBS50Y work at all and without being hard wired?

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected. https://kb.netgear.com/000036466/How-far-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite-from-my-Orbi-router

 

I have 5000sq ft home and just 1 RBS seems to cover the entire place well. Yes I have the 2nd RBS now. 

 

Not sure how many officially NG will support. I know with Orbi AC they go far as 3-4 and thats it. However others have posted having 6 RBS to 1 RBR. No idea if that will be the same for Orbi AX. 

 

Any Orbi RBS50 series are still not compatible wirelessly at this time. No information as of yet from NG on when this will happen nor will we see any information in this regard. I presume when they are ready and get them talking to each other over WiFi, they will announced it in the release notes and maybe make an announcment here in the forums. Until then, keep your eyes on the release notes as FW updates get posted. 

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migsta
Apprentice

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

It's primarily to try and get more signal to the outside of my home. The Orbi AX is really bad the moment I walk out of my home.  It completely dies all around my home and I need strong signals around the house for outdoor cameras.  I know bout the prior Orbi as I had 4 satellites plus the outdoor RBS50Y all connected and working.  I sold that system, save the RBS50Y, and need to know specifically about the Orbi AX if anybody has had success with 3 or more RBS850 satellites (don't care about hard wiring RBS50 satellites - just wireless RBS850 ones).  I would also like to know if the RBS50Y will work with the RBR50?

 

This Orbi AX is pathetic to penetrate outside my home.  Inside with 2 satellites no problem - just outside.

 

Thanks for the response.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

The RBSY does work wirelessly with the 50 series Orbi. 

 

Hopefully someone may post about having 3 RBS850s. I presume 3-4 may work just fine. Placement and distance from RBR will be key as well. 

 

 

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migsta
Apprentice

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

Sorry, meant if RBS50Y works with RBR850?
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

Not wirelessly. You can try and see if it will connect. I don't have one so I can't test it out. 

I would try loading one of these on the RBSY and see what happens:

Firmware Version 2.3.5.32 (Orbi Mode for Orbi)
Firmware Version 1.0.0.46 (Extender Mode for Orbi)<This could work.

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RBS50Y.aspx#download

 

 

 

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migsta
Apprentice

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

This Orbi AX is very slow with firmware releases.  FW to support older satellites (RBS50's) including the outdoor one (RBS50Y). 

 

Aside from that, we don't even know if more than two satellites will work with an RBR850 and getting an additional RBS850 seems futile.  It's already sold out on Amazon but I don't understand how such a fundamental piece of any mesh system (a satellite) can become so exclusive and impossible to buy.  This is a mesh system, a very expensive one, and it lives and dies with the number of satellites that we can buy and install to expand the system based on size of the home and environment.  At the moment, getting a a satellite and getting a concret answer to the number of supported satellites is a futile and elusive at best.  I don't even understand Netgears approach on this and it's still kind of the same with the older RBR50/RBS50 combination.

 

And Netgear, fix the iOS app please so it's not so unstable and give it a more modern look, feel and response to it so it doesn't look so dated.  The Web GUI is even worse.  Device naming and device types, between the two app's, is also completely out of sync and device type choices are bland at best on the iOS app.  We need more device types to select from please.

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FURRYe38
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Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?


@migsta wrote:

This Orbi AX is very slow with firmware releases.  FW to support older satellites (RBS50's) including the outdoor one (RBS50Y). 

 

Aside from that, we don't even know if more than two satellites will work with an RBR850 and getting an additional RBS850 seems futile.  It's already sold out on Amazon but I don't understand how such a fundamental piece of any mesh system (a satellite) can become so exclusive and impossible to buy.  This is a mesh system, a very expensive one, and it lives and dies with the number of satellites that we can buy and install to expand the system based on size of the home and environment.  At the moment, getting a a satellite and getting a concret answer to the number of supported satellites is a futile and elusive at best.  I don't even understand Netgears approach on this and it's still kind of the same with the older RBR50/RBS50 combination.

I'll see if I can get an answer for how many NG will be supporting. NG did report officially supporing 3 on Orbi AC if I remember. Been a while though

 

And Netgear, fix the iOS app please so it's not so unstable and give it a more modern look, feel and response to it so it doesn't look so dated.  The Web GUI is even worse.  Device naming and device types, between the two app's, is also completely out of sync and device type choices are bland at best on the iOS app.  We need more device types to select from please.

If your having issues or questions or comments with the Orbi app, please post here about it:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-App/bd-p/en-home-orbi-app


Let us know if you can try the RBSY FW to see if it will connect or at least give you an extender option to work with the RBR850. 

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ekhalil
Master

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

Maximum number of satellites is limited to 8 in the Orbi AX software.

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ekhalil
Master

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?


@migsta wrote:
Sorry, meant if RBS50Y works with RBR850?

The RBS50Y works even with non-Orbi's in Extender mode so it should also work with Orbi AX.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: RBK853 - How many additional satellites?

Hopefully installing the Extender mode FW will make it work. 


Let us know. 

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