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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

SteveHyland
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RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

My RBR760 is connected to the internet via the D-Link DSL-4320L.  It (and two satellites) worked fine until yesterday.  Then for some reason the RBR760 went offline.  (The DSL4320L modem was fine - and provided backup internet connection.)

I tried interminable reboots of the RBR760, then the RBR760 AND DSL-4320L.  I disconnected the satellites.  I disconnected the entire system and started afresh.  And NOTHING worked until I plugged the Ethernet cable from the DSL-4320L into an Ethernet port on the RBR760 NOT into the "yellow" internet plugin (which I had been using without issue until yesterday).


The "ORBI20" is now providing internet service to my house via the iPad Settings>Wifi.  And the satellites are working.  But if I try putting the router connection into the "yellow" internet plugin, I lose internet.

 

BUT I can’t connect via the ORBI app (on my Apple iPad) which I updated yesterday AFTER the chaos.  I deleted then reinstalled the app to no avail.  AND I can’t connect via the “web login”.  Logging into 192.168.1.1 takes me to the DSL-4320L.  There is no connection via 10.0.0.1.

 

As a result I cannot change any RBR760 settings.  I can’t control any connected devices.  And, I have no access to Parental Controls.  

My apologies for being so long-winded, but yesterday was a day of chaos which is still not under control.  Any ideas?  (BTW NETGEAR support directed me to videos and unhelpful information.)

 

 

 

 

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SteveHyland
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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

Many thanks to all who offered advice.  

 

In the end, I deleted the app and then methodically reconnected the DSL and RBR.

 

I'm now up and running again (including with the ORBI app).  

 

It was a bit unstable at first (depending on the internet port I selected on the DSL-4320L), but seems to have settled down.  I suspect the "double NAT" issue may be at play, but frankly the solution is beyond my technical capabilities - the last thing I want to do is tamper with the DSL settings and not be able to backtrack. 

 

If problems continue, I'll end up having to call in an IT specialist (for what should have been an easy plug in!).   

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SteveHyland
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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

I mentioned above that the "satellites are working".  I should have said "appear to be working".  I now believe I’m getting reduced internet coverage from the RBR760 router itself rather than its satellites.

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CrimpOn
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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

Like all residential routers, the Orbi RBR760 creates a local network and uses Network Address Translation (NAT) so that to the network the Orbi has been connected to, all the devices appear to come from one IP address.  Normally, this local network is 192.168.1.x.  When the router WAN port has been assigned an IP address in that 192.168.1.x subnet, the default behavior is to change its local network to 10.0.0.x

 

What appears to have happened is the Ethernet link between D-Link and Orbi WAN port is not working.

 

By connecting one of the LAN ports to the D-Link device (a combination DLS modem/router/WiFi device) things are "confused".  When every device on the network uses a DHCP broadcast to ask for an IP address, those broadcasts will be sent everywhere, including to the D-Link. And, the D-Link will respond.  It might be useful to log into the D-Link (at 192.168.1.1) and see what it shows for "Connected Devices".  It would be especially helpful to reconnect the Ethernet cable to the Orbi WAN port and see if the D-Link shows the Orbi as being connected. (also try a different D-Link port.)

 

 

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SteveHyland
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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

Thanks for your useful response.  I have set aside as long as it takes tomorrow to work on this issue.  

 

I have logged into the D-Link (at 192.168.1.1) and see what it shows for "Connected Devices" and it shows RBR760 as a connected device, but unlike all other devices it has no signal bars.  

 

I already tried connecting the Ethernet cable to the Orbi WAN port and I lost internet entirely.

 

BUT your suggestion of trying a different D-Link port is the first thing I’ll try before I move on to more extreme steps - like disconnecting the lot and trying to put the system back together again. (I had tried that yesterday, but who knows…I might have taken a misstep).

 

many thanks for your help.

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FURRYe38
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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

Your ISP Modem already has a built in router and wifi. This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the Orbi router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router.
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-WIFI-6-AX-AND-Wi-Fi-6E-AXE/Procedure-for-Factory-reset-of-RBS8...
https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop
Try option #2 first...

 


@SteveHyland wrote:

My RBR760 is connected to the internet via the D-Link DSL-4320L.  It (and two satellites) worked fine until yesterday.  Then for some reason the RBR760 went offline.  (The DSL4320L modem was fine - and provided backup internet connection.)

I tried interminable reboots of the RBR760, then the RBR760 AND DSL-4320L.  I disconnected the satellites.  I disconnected the entire system and started afresh.  And NOTHING worked until I plugged the Ethernet cable from the DSL-4320L into an Ethernet port on the RBR760 NOT into the "yellow" internet plugin (which I had been using without issue until yesterday).


The "ORBI20" is now providing internet service to my house via the iPad Settings>Wifi.  And the satellites are working.  But if I try putting the router connection into the "yellow" internet plugin, I lose internet.

 

BUT I can’t connect via the ORBI app (on my Apple iPad) which I updated yesterday AFTER the chaos.  I deleted then reinstalled the app to no avail.  AND I can’t connect via the “web login”.  Logging into 192.168.1.1 takes me to the DSL-4320L.  There is no connection via 10.0.0.1.

 

As a result I cannot change any RBR760 settings.  I can’t control any connected devices.  And, I have no access to Parental Controls.  

My apologies for being so long-winded, but yesterday was a day of chaos which is still not under control.  Any ideas?  (BTW NETGEAR support directed me to videos and unhelpful information.)

 

 

 

 


 

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SteveHyland
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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

Many thanks to all who offered advice.  

 

In the end, I deleted the app and then methodically reconnected the DSL and RBR.

 

I'm now up and running again (including with the ORBI app).  

 

It was a bit unstable at first (depending on the internet port I selected on the DSL-4320L), but seems to have settled down.  I suspect the "double NAT" issue may be at play, but frankly the solution is beyond my technical capabilities - the last thing I want to do is tamper with the DSL settings and not be able to backtrack. 

 

If problems continue, I'll end up having to call in an IT specialist (for what should have been an easy plug in!).   

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FURRYe38
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Re: RBR760 MULTIPLE ISSUES

Glad you got it working. Please mark your thread as solved so others will know. Be sure to save off a back up configuration to file for safe keeping. Saves time if a reset is needed.
https://kb.netgear.com/000062080/How-do-I-back-up-the-configuration-settings-on-my-Orbi-WiFi-System
Enjoy. 📡

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