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"Connected without internet" when moving from WiFI backhaul to wired backhaul
I recently upgraded from an Orbi Wifi5 system to the Orbi Wifi 6 and am having major delays when switching between devices . My setup is this: Orbi RBR760 in the main house. 2 satellites also in the...
Possibly. That cable also connects everything in the house to the Cisco switch which is connected to the internet and all those non-roaming devices work just fine. It also worked with the Wifi 5 Orbi models and roaming had no problems. But we ran it probably 8 years ago so it's probably time to replace it. Even upgrade to Cat-6 while we're at it. It's all in PVC with pull lines so it will be pretty easy to replace. I'll start with a new cable from the Orbi RBR's lan port to the RBS, bypassing all the switches, to match the Wifi 6 documentation and see if that works.
That would be a good step to test. No switches in the mix.
What model# are the switches? Are these managed or non-managed switches?
There are known issues with managed switches and some non managed switches that have green ethernet features.
The only switch in the mix is a Cisco SG500-28. It's a managed switch and there are a number of VLANs but no Layer 3 Packet inspection or filtering. The current setup matches the diagram above except I removed the Netgear switch so the cable is direct from the Cisco Switch to the Internet port on the RBR and then direct from the Cisco to the RBS.
I want to try splitting the RBR's connections; Internet and LAN on the Internet port and wired backhaul on a LAN port. I would expect issues if I had a cable from the RBR's internet port to the switch and also a cable from the RBR's LAN port to the same switch so my plan has less to do with removing the switches and more to do with having the Wired backhaul connected to the RBR's LAN port and a new cable is the only way to accomplish that.Ok, so ya, managed switch will cause some problems.
Something to check for on that switch, IGMP protocol and Green Ethernet features. Disable these on this switch.
Also the connection configuration flow has to have any ethernet connected RBS connected behind the RBR, not in parallel at the switch. So Switch>to RBR WAN port. Then RBR LAN ports connected to RBS LAN ports. A non managed switch can be in between the RBR and RBS here if needed.
Ya won't run WAN port of RBR and LAN port of RBR back to switch. Would cause a ARP storm loop.
"Also the connection configuration flow has to have any ethernet connected RBS connected behind the RBR, not in parallel at the switch. So Switch>to RBR WAN port. Then RBR LAN ports connected to RBS LAN ports. A non managed switch can be in between the RBR and RBS here if needed. "
Exactly the plan. I can run a cable direct without any switches I just hadn't thought of doing this initially since the Wifi5 did not require it. Good thing when I buried the cable I piped it instead of direct bury so adding cables is easy.