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5Ghz channels
Hello, I saw this topic here. But I would like understand why all upper 5Ghz channels are unavailabled for the clients. In Europe, at least in France, we can use the next channels in 80Mhz : ...
I love discussions like this. Some people think Netgear has not implemented DFS in any routers; others assert their routers are exhibiting DFS behavior. (If ONLY Netgear engineers browsed the forums!) Perhaps once they know where the router is located, they adjust frequencies to match?
I am puzzled by ekhalil's comment that his router "changes backhaul frequencies" more often than his satellite. I had thought that the router and satellite have to be on the same frequency to communicate. So, if they change frequency, they would have to change together.
My WiFi Analyzer app shows an ARRIS on channel 132 somewhere nearby. I don't know how that squares with Netgear restricting itself and competing with all the other 5G devices.
CrimpOn wrote:
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I am puzzled by ekhalil's comment that his router "changes backhaul frequencies" more often than his satellite. I had thought that the router and satellite have to be on the same frequency to communicate. So, if they change frequency, they would have to change together.
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Good question! :)
If you have Daisy Chain activated then each Satellite will start broadcasting it's own Backhaul Channel to allow other Satellites to connect to.
These Satellite's Backhaul Channels are independent of the Channels that are being used by the Router.
If Daisy Chain is disabled, then you will only see the Router's backhaul channel.
Please see the picture below showing my Roter and Satellite broadcasting at different channels with different bandwidths:
Please also have a look here:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Understanding-Orbi-Radio-Fronthaul-Backhaul/m-p/1671092#M46569
That is a GREAT explanation. Thanks!
So, it appears that a configuration with only one satellite should turn off "Daisy Chain" so that the one satellite will not tie up 5G bandwidth for no reason?
Which app was used to produce the channel information?
CrimpOn wrote:
........So, it appears that a configuration with only one satellite should turn off "Daisy Chain" so that the one satellite will not tie up 5G bandwidth for no reason?
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Correct!
CrimpOn wrote:
.......Which app was used to produce the channel information?
I use the built-in wifi analyser in my Macbook
So "turning off daisy chain"... depending on who you talk to, you get "Tribal Knowledge" input that perhaps the setting is backwards on the configuration screen. (e.g. checked is actually off)
What is the authoritative way of ensuring daisy chain is turned off? (Is there something you can monitor to see the intended effect was made?
Thanks! Great discussions!
Chuck_M wrote:
So "turning off daisy chain"... depending on who you talk to, you get "Tribal Knowledge" input that perhaps the setting is backwards on the configuration screen. (e.g. checked is actually off)
What is the authoritative way of ensuring daisy chain is turned off? (Is there something you can monitor to see the intended effect was made?
Thanks! Great discussions!
Please tick off Daisy Chain in the Advanced Wireless settings to disable Daisy Chain.
You can check that Daisy Chain is disabled by making a wifi scan. You should only see one "hidden" network (network with no SSID) using one of the upper 5 GHz channells with the MAC address of the Router.
If Daisy Chain is enabled you will see one hidden network for every Satellite as well, with the respective MAC addresses of every satellite.
ekhalil wrote:
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You can check that Daisy Chain is disabled by making a wifi scan. You should only see one "hidden" network (network with no SSID) using one of the upper 5 GHz channells with the MAC address of the Router.
If Daisy Chain is enabled you will see one hidden network for every Satellite as well, with the respective MAC addresses of every satellite.
This is what I meant:
If Daisy Chain is disabled, you will only see the Router's Backhaul in the above wifi scan. Notice the MAC address of the basestation in the wifi scan to see if it's the router or the satellite.
Great response and makes total sense! Will try Christmas day when I open the second sattelite!! (I peeked!)
Thanks and happy holidays
