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karloy007
Dec 24, 2017Aspirant
Client Isolation between Router and Satellites?
I upgraded to an Orbi Router (RBR50) and two Orbi Satellites (RBS50) to get coverage for my house, and the backchannel speed is as great as advertised. That said, I am running into odd network issues...
DarrenM
Dec 27, 2017Sr. NETGEAR Moderator
Yea I would try setting up static routes and see if that works.
DarrenM
karloy007
Dec 27, 2017Aspirant
I addressed the issue by setting it to AP, and use the FIOS Quantum Gateway routing functionality. Another issue I discovered was that UPnP didn't work correctly. Before, I found some instructions how to set the FIOS Quantum Gateway into bridge mode and use Orbi as router, but apparently it didn't work properly. Setting Orbi to AP addressed it.
- Greystorm64Dec 28, 2017Apprentice
But, why would you do that? I had the Quantum router, but I wanted to get rid of the router, so I replaced it with the Orbi for performance improvement.
Putting the Orbi into AP mode and connected to the internet through the router I wanted to replace would be defeating the purpose of having the Orbi Mesh-Network in the first place.
Wouldn't it? I might be missing something as to why anyone would do that.
I would appreciate understanding your reasoning. Might help me understand things better.
- karloy007Dec 28, 2017Aspirant
I can't get rid of my FIOS modem/router, since my connection from the in-house box is coax, not ethernet . Once you have ethernet and only internet service, i think you can remove the FIOS modem/router.
AP for FIOS router seems to be officialy recommended/supported, I don't see any performance downgrade (actually an upgrade, since I had issues with lost connections before).
https://kb.netgear.com/31100/How-do-I-set-up-my-Orbi-system-to-work-with-Fios
- Greystorm64Dec 28, 2017Apprentice
my modem has Ethernet output and plugs into the Orbi via the ethernet/internet port. So I can and did dump the Quantum Router and installed the RBR50. Reset the modem and all the correct way.
As I said, it works. I have 3 PC's hard wired to the OBR50 and all 3 of them get full bandwitdth all the time to the internet.
Its when devices start connecting to WiFi that things go wonky... devices drop randomly, connect to the RBR instead of the RBS when the RBR is on the other side of the house from where I and the RBS are. (shouldn't it connect to the closest Orbi automatically?)
- st_shawDec 28, 2017Master
Greystorm64 wrote:
Putting the Orbi into AP mode and connected to the internet through the router I wanted to replace would be defeating the purpose of having the Orbi Mesh-Network in the first place.
Wouldn't it? I might be missing something as to why anyone would do that.
I would appreciate understanding your reasoning. Might help me understand things better.
Using the Orbi in AP mode does not defeat the purpose of Orbi at all. The main feature of Orbi is WiFi coverage. Orbi's router functions are nothing special. Using Orbi in AP mode gives you all the WiFi coverage of Orbi and allows you to use a more capable router for the routing functions.
- Greystorm64Dec 28, 2017Apprentice
OK, I think I can understand that. I purchased the 7000 sqft offering, came with an RBR50,RBS50 and RBS40.
The 40 is dead anding being RMA'd.
Would I set up 3 AP's? would they all still be the same wifi SSID? Would devices move from AP to AP as they moved away from one AP's zone into another?
Would I hard wire the OBR50 to my Quantum Gateway (after turnning the Orbi into a Bridge? I assume, I would disable the wifi on the Quantum and only keep the ORBI SSID visible?
OK, all well and good, my Quantum router seemed to always give my hardwired devices full bandwidth of 150MB all the time. The Orbi was to get rid of dead spots and improve the performance of the wifi (as the Quantum Wifi side had some real performance issues.
BUT, that wont stop my issue of devices dropping from the Orbi's randomly. It wont stop all the devices to connect to the RBR even through an RBS is much closer. It wont stop devices from bouncing between 2.4 and 5ghz networks at random times.
It wont solve the issue of the device list on the RBS's are allways empty, even when I have a device hard wired to one of them (and the device works fine and has full access to the internet).
It wont solve the issue of the RBR device list not showing all the devices that are on the network. And I have verified by checking for the precnesne of abcense of MAC address of devices that were actually accing the internet or streaming from the internet. the device showed up no where in any device list... and it would show up for hours, even then. It was random. Some would finally show, some would never show, and others would drop from the list, but still seem connected to the internet.
SO, I could use the FiOS router, set up 3 AP's with my ORBI's and still have all these random issues.
I am close to packing it all away and sending it back.
Get me a NightHawk router with an AP or 2 to ensure I cover the access points. I just didn't want the family and guests to have to figure out which AP or Router SSID they should connect to.