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Client Isolation between Router and Satellites?
I upgraded to an Orbi Router (RBR50) and two Orbi Satellites (RBS50) to get coverage for my house, and the backchannel speed is as great as advertised. That said, I am running into odd network issues...
But, why would you do that? I had the Quantum router, but I wanted to get rid of the router, so I replaced it with the Orbi for performance improvement.
Putting the Orbi into AP mode and connected to the internet through the router I wanted to replace would be defeating the purpose of having the Orbi Mesh-Network in the first place.
Wouldn't it? I might be missing something as to why anyone would do that.
I would appreciate understanding your reasoning. Might help me understand things better.
I can't get rid of my FIOS modem/router, since my connection from the in-house box is coax, not ethernet . Once you have ethernet and only internet service, i think you can remove the FIOS modem/router.
AP for FIOS router seems to be officialy recommended/supported, I don't see any performance downgrade (actually an upgrade, since I had issues with lost connections before).
https://kb.netgear.com/31100/How-do-I-set-up-my-Orbi-system-to-work-with-Fios
my modem has Ethernet output and plugs into the Orbi via the ethernet/internet port. So I can and did dump the Quantum Router and installed the RBR50. Reset the modem and all the correct way.
As I said, it works. I have 3 PC's hard wired to the OBR50 and all 3 of them get full bandwitdth all the time to the internet.
Its when devices start connecting to WiFi that things go wonky... devices drop randomly, connect to the RBR instead of the RBS when the RBR is on the other side of the house from where I and the RBS are. (shouldn't it connect to the closest Orbi automatically?)
Just to add here, using the Quantum Router for routing (need it for coax connection), and the Orbi addresses the issues I had. I behaves the same way, one network for router and satellites, same throughput between satellites and orbi router, etc. Devices now show up in both the Quantum Router and the Orbi web admin - quantum router appears to display the accurate count of devices, Orbi web admin not reliability all of them. To get a “real” count, I go into the FIOS router interface.
Originally, I followed this guide to set the FIOS G1110 router to bridge mode:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31057540-Networking-HOW-TO-Bridge-G1100-So-your-Router-becomes-Primary, and use the Orbi in router mode.
While technically I was able to set it up, i had the following problems:
- G1110 router interface was only accessible via the WAN port. Not a huge issue, but you need connect to another ethernet port to get into the interface rather than just an IP address.
- UPnP didn’t work correctly, which was a big issue for me. Plex, Gaming, apps, etc couldn’t automatically setup their own external ports, so I lost functionality.
- My Jongo A2 streaming devices couldn’t find each other. Didn’t track down the root cause, I read somewhere to ensure multicast is turned on, but I don’t understand why Orbi in router mode wouldn’t handle it. Maybe as previously mentioned, setting a static route would have helped.
- Connectivity issues - internet connection would consistently drop, basically not stable. That’s a no-go for this configuration. Verizon has some remote control over the FIOS router, maybe some system didn’t like it running it in bridge mode - purely a theory though, I didn’t troubleshoot this further.
Fios G1110 + Orbi in AP seems to be the way to go, I am happy with the peformance and Orbi in general.