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Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

Viking42
Apprentice

LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

Hi

 

Using a LBR20 with two RBS20 satellites

the LBR20 is connected on WAN plug to my fibre modem

Router Firmware Version
V2.5.2.20

 

going to http://orbilogin.net/

the advanced/advanced setup Router / AP Mode

Router / AP Mode is fully greyed out, i cant go into that menu

 

any idea on how to make that work? i want my LBR20 in ap mode so that it takes over the IP reservation from my modem

 

thanks

 

 

 

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CrimpOn
Guru

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out


@Viking42 wrote:

going to http://orbilogin.net/

the advanced/advanced setup Router / AP Mode

Router / AP Mode is fully greyed out, i cant go into that menu

 

any idea on how to make that work? i want my LBR20 in ap mode so that it takes over the IP reservation from my modem


Have you tried rebooting the Orbi?  I do not recall anyone posting about this before,  It may be that a Factory Reset will be required to undo whatever setting has gone bad.

 

Before going further, can you please explain more about the desired result?  "takes over the IP reservation" may be clear to you, but I am uncertain what you want:

  • The Orbi to have the "public IP" assigned by the Internet Service Provider (ISP).
    This has nothing to do with the Orbi mode setting.  If the Orbi is now getting a "private IP" from the modem, that is controlled by a modem setting.  i.e. the modem is actually a "modem/router".
  • The Orbi to handle IP assignments to all of the devices connected to it.
    This is part of "router" mode, not AP mode.
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CrimpOn
Guru

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

Oh, fudge.  I didn't pick up on the model number, LBR20.  That's the LTE modem, correct?  Putting it into AP mode would make it inoperable.

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Viking42
Apprentice

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

Hi,

 

My Fiber modem is configured in the way that it assigns fixed IP's to a certain amount of devices in my home for home automation purpose.

With my previous Wifi AP this worked fine as the wifi router just took over the fix IP allocation of my fiber modem in any case. 

 

So far with my orbi wifi system, i did not find a way to ensure the fixed IP's assigned by the fiber modem are kept.

I could do it the dirty way and in the orbi interface also assign the same fixed IP's but the IP range form orbi and my modem are hugely different (10.0.0.xx for my modem, 192.168.x.x for the orbi wifi) so with my level of talent this sounds risky

 

 

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Blanca_O
NETGEAR Moderator

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

Hi @Viking42

 

Welcome to NETGEAR Community!

 

When the router(LBR20) is using a mobile broadband Internet connection, Access Point mode feature does not work. 

 

Can you please explain further what you are trying to achieve?

 

You can disable the mobile broadband connection entirely so that the router(LBR20) uses a wired Internet connection only. For reference: 

https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/LBR20/Orbi_LBR20_UM_EN.pdf [page 86 - 87]. 
 
Regards,
Blanca
Community Team

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Mstrbig
Master

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

@Viking42 

Do you have automatic failover support on, wired internet connection only, or mobile broadband only? To use AP mode you would have to be set to wired internet connection only. 

I've never done this before as all the LBR20s we installed are set to automatic failover, but have you tried disabling the DHCP server on the LBR20?

To disable the DHCP server feature in the router:
1. Launch a web browser from a computer or mobile device that is connected to your
Orbi network.
2. Enter orbilogin.com.
A login window opens.
3. Enter the admin user name and password.
The user name is admin. The password is the one that you specified the first time
that you logged in. The user name and password are case-sensitive.
The BASIC Home page displays.
4. Select ADVANCED > Setup > LAN Setup.
The LAN Setup page displays.
5. Clear the Use Router as DHCP Server check box.
6. Click the Apply button

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CrimpOn
Guru

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

It seems pretty clear (to me) that "what is the point?" is the important question.  People who deliberately purchase an LTE WiFi router generally have one of two goals:

  • Their only broadband option is LTE (no cable, fiber, or DSL).  In that case, the LTE device cannot be in AP mode.
    There would be no router to give the any devices an IP address.  Makes no sense.
  • They want the LTE modem to be a "failover" for their primary ISP.  (This is a valid solution to an unstable ISP or to a need for guaranteed network connection.)
    In this case, the LTE device cannot be in AP mode, because when it fails over there will no longer be any way for any attached devices to get an IP address.

Buying an LTE device with the intention of never using LTE seems a bit unusual.  @Blanca_O provided instructions for how to set the LTE device to "never use LTE" and thus be capable of AP mode. 

 

If the goal is to keep using the primary ISP router as the DHCP server, but "fail over" to LTE when the ISP service goes down, then it is simply not going to work.  Imagine this:  every device in the house knows through DHCP that the ISP device is the internet gateway.  The ISP service goes down, so the LTE device activates LTE mode.  All the devices "know" that the gateway is through a device that no longer works.  The LTE modem is NOT the gateway, and has no way to become the gateway.  The network cannot "fail over".

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Mstrbig
Master

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

@CrimpOn I've thought the same thing since day one, when we first started installing them. Hence the reason why we only set them up the one way with automatic failover support on. 

One would be better off purchasing a regular Orbi system and getting a hot spot device from their ISP.

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Viking42
Apprentice

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

Hi,

Thansk for all the answers!


The setup:
- A fiber modem is connected to the WAN port, signal works fine
- A Sim card is inserted in the orbi and the signal works fine (tested in always 3G/4g to make sure)
- I bought this specific router for the failover option, The Orbi is configured in failover mode
- The orbi is configured in DHCP

 


Two issues

1) When My fiber modem is still up but i recived no internet signal from fiber line, the Orbi router does not switch to 3G/4G: It seems the orbi assumes that as it still gets a signal from the fiber modem, but without internet connection, everything is fine

2) I am still looking for a way to have my orbi taking over the fixed IP's assigned by my fiber modem

 

thanks!

Message 9 of 10
Viking42
Apprentice

Re: LBR20 Router / AP Mode option greyed out

So i tried to deactivate the DHCP, the clean way with fiber modem reboot and orbi reboot

A real mess, none of my devices recieved an IP adress, i was unable to access the modem this way and reactivate the DHCP,  it ended in a full reset.

 

I'm still ver blocked with my issues, any insider tipp would help me a lot

 

The setup:

- A fiber modem is connected to the WAN port, signal works fine
- A Sim card is inserted in the orbi and the signal works fine (tested in always 3G/4g to make sure)
- I bought this specific router for the failover option, The Orbi is configured in failover mode
- The orbi is configured in DHCP


Two problems 

1) When My fiber modem is still up but i recived no internet signal from fiber line, the Orbi router does not switch to 3G/4G: It seems the orbi assumes that as it still gets a signal from the fiber modem, but without internet connection, everything is fine

2) How have my orbi taking over the fixed IP's assigned on my fiber modem

 

thanks!!

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