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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

JamminJimmy
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My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

I've discovered that since my ISP increased the bandwidth of my plan, I'm running at -- and have exceeded once -- the data cap that they impose. After much digging and trudging, I see that my RBR40 is issuing speed tests roughly every 2 hours and with the increased capacity it is consuming almost 1Gb per execution. Over the course of a month, this is working out to be almost 30% of my data capacity. I see the Speed Test option in the router administration pages, but it doesn't have any obvious configuration to modify how often the tests run. I really don't want to have to block access to speedtest.net, but I don't see any other way around this headache. Does anyone have any ideas of how to configure my RBR40 to run speed tests less frequently? 

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JamminJimmy
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

Excellent question and it has triggered a thought. Yes, it's that grafana. It's in a Home Assistant instance. It gets the data from the Traffic Meter feature of the router, which is coming from the Netgear integration with HomeAssistant. Your question made me think about that so I started digging through their docs. This bit is especially interesting, particularly the note of warning at the end of the paragraph. I know that I disabled the downlink and uplink entities long ago, but I don't remember doing anything with the ping entity. So, if that's still enabled in HA, then the integration is still running the full speed test every 2 hours. I may be taking an extended lunch break to head home and verify if any one of those 3 entities are still enabled and if so, I'll disable it and unblock access to speedtest.net. Assuming that 1) I don't see a spike in network traffic every two hours and 2) the last updated field in the Admin pages of the Router management remains unchanged, then I think we've found the culprit. It's also interesting to me that the HA integration might be updating the last run time value of the Speed Test results page in the router's management tool -- but if it's a true integration and invoking speed test as offered by the router, then it makes sense. If this is the issue, which won't surprise me at this point based on those docs, my frustration with lack of configuration flexibility persists, but will have moved from the Netgear product to this 3rd-party integration with the product. I'll share updates here hopefully later today when I get hands-on with it to check the state of the 3 named entities that would trigger the speed test.

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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

This seems to be a duplicate of this message:

 

It's the Orbi invocation of SpeedTest that's gener... - NETGEAR Communities

 

 


@JamminJimmy wrote:

After much digging and trudging, I see that my RBR40 is issuing speed tests roughly every 2 hours and with the increased capacity it is consuming almost 1Gb per execution.


Weird. Where do you see that?

 

I have never seen a router of any sort "issuing speed tests".

 

What do you see in the router's logs?

 

What modem/ONT/gateway connects the router to the Internet?

 

While many questions about routers are generic and could be answered anywhere, some things need specialist knowledge.

You might get more help, and find earlier questions and answers specific to your device, in the appropriate section for your hardware. That's probably here:

Orbi - NETGEAR Communities

You might like to search there for messages related to your issue.

I will ask the Netgear moderator to move your message.

In the meantime you could visit the support pages:

Support | NETGEAR

Feed in your model number and check the documentation for your hardware. Look at the label on the device for the model number.

Check for various troubleshooting tips.

You may have done this already. I can't tell from your message.

I mention it because Netgear stopped supplying printed manuals and CD versions some years ago and people sometimes miss the downloads.

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syedjalal
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

your Netgear RBR40 router is automatically running speed tests at regular intervals, consuming a significant portion of your data cap. Unfortunately, if the router's administration pages don't offer a straightforward option to modify the frequency of these tests, you may need to explore alternative solutions:

Investigate whether there are any third-party firmware options available for your router model that provide more advanced configuration options. Some open-source firmware projects, such as DD-WRT or OpenWrt, offer additional features and customization options compared to stock firmware. Alternatively, you might find scripts or custom solutions developed by the community that address this issue.

Consider setting up a separate device or software on your network to monitor bandwidth usage and schedule speed tests at less frequent intervals. This approach would involve using a dedicated device or software to periodically perform speed tests, rather than relying on the router itself.

Explore whether your router or any connected devices offer built-in bandwidth monitoring and management features. Some routers allow you to set bandwidth limits or prioritize traffic for specific devices, which could help you manage your data usage more effectively.

If you're consistently exceeding your data cap due to the router's speed tests, consider reaching out to your ISP to discuss alternative options or upgrading your plan to accommodate the increased data usage.

In the meantime, if blocking access to speedtest.net is the only viable solution to mitigate data usage, you may need to temporarily implement this measure until a more permanent solution can be found. However, it's worth exploring other avenues first to see if there's a way to configure or manage the speed tests directly from the router's settings or through additional tools and resources.

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plemans
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

I've had multiple orbi's and even the RBR40 version you have (and its running at a friends right now).

None of them have ran schedules speedtests. I logged in remotely and checked just to make sure. 

Makes me suspicious that something else is going on.

What makes you point it to the orbi? Whats telling you its running every 2 hours? 

Have you tried a factory reset?

What modem/gateway is it connected to?

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JamminJimmy
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

I track the data usage via Grafana. I see a spike approximately every 2 hours. I cross reference the time of the spike to the time reported on the Speed Test page in the admin console (web pages) of the Orbi and the spike correlates precisely to the last time the speed test reports having been run. The Speed Test page has a button to manually execute the test and the test results and the time the test last ran. It has no schedule to manage the execution.

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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

And your modem/gateway?

 

I'm with @plemans. Something else is going on. Netgear has no reason to run speedtests that the user does not initiate.

 

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JamminJimmy
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

What about the modem / gateway? They would have less reason to run the tests than the router. I have done searching through the forums before starting the discussion. Most responses related to speed test discrepancy between the router and the modem, which is not the issue I’m having. I’ve seen a few that mentioned the reason for the tests was to maintain QoS between the router and its satellites, which I can somewhat wrap my head around except for the inability to configure the frequency of execution. 

 

The primary reason for suspecting the router is that the SpeedTest page in the advanced section of the admin console shows that the test was last run at the same time as a spike in the data consumption. I suppose it’s feasible that the router is somehow tracking the results of another entity’s execution of the speed test, including the results of the tests, but that seems unlikely to me. 

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plemans
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

I've never seen the router run scheduled tests. If it truly is, try factory resetting the router and reinstalling it. 

Again, I've never seen that and I've ran the RBR40, RBR50, RBR750, RBR960, and RBE971. Plus the MK93. and numerous other netgear routers. None of them have ran scheduled speedtest. I've actually seen it as a suggested idea as some users (without data caps) want to track consistent speeds directly on the router. 

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CrimpOn
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently


@JamminJimmy wrote:

I track the data usage via Grafana.


This Grafana? https://grafana.com 

What platform is Grafana running on?

How does it collect data?

 

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JamminJimmy
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

Excellent question and it has triggered a thought. Yes, it's that grafana. It's in a Home Assistant instance. It gets the data from the Traffic Meter feature of the router, which is coming from the Netgear integration with HomeAssistant. Your question made me think about that so I started digging through their docs. This bit is especially interesting, particularly the note of warning at the end of the paragraph. I know that I disabled the downlink and uplink entities long ago, but I don't remember doing anything with the ping entity. So, if that's still enabled in HA, then the integration is still running the full speed test every 2 hours. I may be taking an extended lunch break to head home and verify if any one of those 3 entities are still enabled and if so, I'll disable it and unblock access to speedtest.net. Assuming that 1) I don't see a spike in network traffic every two hours and 2) the last updated field in the Admin pages of the Router management remains unchanged, then I think we've found the culprit. It's also interesting to me that the HA integration might be updating the last run time value of the Speed Test results page in the router's management tool -- but if it's a true integration and invoking speed test as offered by the router, then it makes sense. If this is the issue, which won't surprise me at this point based on those docs, my frustration with lack of configuration flexibility persists, but will have moved from the Netgear product to this 3rd-party integration with the product. I'll share updates here hopefully later today when I get hands-on with it to check the state of the 3 named entities that would trigger the speed test.

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CrimpOn
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

What platform is Grafana/Home Automation running on?

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JamminJimmy
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

Home *Assistant* is running on a RPi4; Grafana is running as an integration on that that HomeAssistant instance.

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JamminJimmy
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

Solution found; I'm providing a TL;DR answer for others who might find this in the future:

 

The Netgear integration for HomeAssistant runs SpeedTest every 2 hours without offering the ability to modify that timing. The execution of that operation consumes roughly 2x the bandwidth offered by my ISP (ie: 500Mbps download speed --> 1Gb data consumption per execution). Given my ISP's metering restriction, this resulted in roughly 33% data allocation consumed by speed tests. I resolved this issue by disabling the 1) downlink, 2) uplink, and 3) ping entities of the Netgear integration exposed by the Netgear HomeAssistant Integration.

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plemans
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Re: My Orbi RBR40 (FW v2.7.4.24) runs speed tests automatically too frequently

I wasn't familar with the netgear home integration, but it looks like its done through public support on github. Not from netgear. Might be something to bring up on the github forum the ability to change the timings of it to make it maybe daily/weekly, etc. 

The site does show it runs speedtests every 2 hours. That'd kill my data too. 

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