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Orbi RBR & RBS Ethernet Backhaul Help
I have Centurylink Fiber 1Gig up and 1 Gig down. In order to get rid of Centurylink's Modem/Router combo I had to utilize PPPOE and VLAN Tagging. I setup the VLAN Tagging on my TP Link Smart Switch (...
DSconewrote:Thank you for the detailed response. I really appreciate the help! Your explanation makes perfect sense.
Well... Looks like I won't be able to do this because my ONT is in the basement and is connected to my switch. I have one cat5 going upstairs in the family room (Orbi Router - Router Mode) and another cat 5 going in a upstairs bedroom (Orbi Satellite) on the oposite side of the house. I would need two cat5's in order to do what you described going up to the family room. I could bring the Orbi Router in the basement but I minimze the coverage in the family room.
My main purpose here was to use the TP Link switch to do the VLAN tagging and the Orbi to do the PPPOE login to avoid the Centurylink Modem/Router (c3000z). Guess I could hook this up as the router and put my Orbi's in AP Mode. Could you explain how to do this? Would I simply just hook up both the Orbi's up to the c3000z's ports and it would work? - Take the switch out all together.
Don't change AP vs routed mode over this! You don't need 2 cat 5 cable runs! Just because the Orbi's don't propertly support VLANs, doesn't mean you're out of the game. You just need two more steps.
Step 1: Put a managed switch upstairs near where your router is
This can be your basement switch, if it is small and quiet. If not, just buy a cheap 4 port managed switch (faneless, preferrably). They are about $65 if you get a new one.
Step 2: Setup the new switch like mentioned earlier
The modem gets plugged into the cable line that runs upstairs and goes into Port 1 on the switch. The rest remains the same as my note earlier.
The only down side is that you'll have to organize 4 cables so it looks nice. If you get a switch with flashing lights, maybe you'll have to carefully put electrical tape over the LEDs too. But, all in all, it'll be clean.
Now, say you really don't want to put a managed switch near the Orbi router. AP mode is possible with a single cable, but that means something else will need to provide routing/DCHP/NAT services. And, whatever it is, will need to be in your basement. If you don't want to use the CenturyLink modem's built in features, I would suggest getting a cheap pfSense box. For reference, that's what I use.
t_kwrote:
DSconewrote:Thank you for the detailed response. I really appreciate the help! Your explanation makes perfect sense.
Well... Looks like I won't be able to do this because my ONT is in the basement and is connected to my switch. I have one cat5 going upstairs in the family room (Orbi Router - Router Mode) and another cat 5 going in a upstairs bedroom (Orbi Satellite) on the oposite side of the house. I would need two cat5's in order to do what you described going up to the family room. I could bring the Orbi Router in the basement but I minimze the coverage in the family room.
My main purpose here was to use the TP Link switch to do the VLAN tagging and the Orbi to do the PPPOE login to avoid the Centurylink Modem/Router (c3000z). Guess I could hook this up as the router and put my Orbi's in AP Mode. Could you explain how to do this? Would I simply just hook up both the Orbi's up to the c3000z's ports and it would work? - Take the switch out all together.
Don't change AP vs routed mode over this! You don't need 2 cat 5 cable runs! Just because the Orbi's don't propertly support VLANs, doesn't mean you're out of the game. You just need two more steps.
Step 1: Put a managed switch upstairs near where your router is
This can be your basement switch, if it is small and quiet. If not, just buy a cheap 4 port managed switch (faneless, preferrably). They are about $65 if you get a new one.
Step 2: Setup the new switch like mentioned earlier
The modem gets plugged into the cable line that runs upstairs and goes into Port 1 on the switch. The rest remains the same as my note earlier.
The only down side is that you'll have to organize 4 cables so it looks nice. If you get a switch with flashing lights, maybe you'll have to carefully put electrical tape over the LEDs too. But, all in all, it'll be clean.
Now, say you really don't want to put a managed switch near the Orbi router. AP mode is possible with a single cable, but that means something else will need to provide routing/DCHP/NAT services. And, whatever it is, will need to be in your basement. If you don't want to use the CenturyLink modem's built in features, I would suggest getting a cheap pfSense box. For reference, that's what I use.
What happend to your post about trunking? It disappeared?
DScone It's back now. Looks like it was caught in a spam filter for some reason. A netgear moderator was able to recover it.
t_k A update on last night. I was able to get your switch suggestion working properly. I did some test though... When setting the Orbi to do the PPPOE and the Switch to handle the VLAN tagging I notice the speed seems to be some what inconsistent. Before I set this all up I tested the Orbi to run in AP Mode just for the heck of it and used the Centurylink c3000z Modem/Router as the router (wireless turned off). I got much better and more consistant speeds (wireless and wired). I have read that PPPOE and VLAN tagging can somewhat cause some stress on the router and thus bottlenecking the speed.
I have also read about your pfsense idea and I actually would possibly prefer that... But until then I think I might just do the AP Mode with the centurylink router. I appreciate the time you are taking to help me out. Could you give me the best senario to do for AP Mode with Ethernet Backhaul?