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raykag
Apr 28, 2018Guide
OrbiOS 2.1.4.10 kills Internet access if you use Ethernet back haul
I'd been happily using the RBK50 Orbi AC3000 single satellite system since June of 2017 and started using ethernet back haul succesfully around October 2017. Typically 8-16 connections at any given ...
- Oct 04, 2018
I updated my firmware to 2.2.1.210 today and it solved the ethernet back haul taking the internet connection down and eliminated a couple of other oddities that I was experiencing.
WAP
Apr 30, 2018Apprentice
I've come to the conclusion that ethernet backhaul in 2.1.4.1 doesn't work even though it worked fine for me in the previous release (2.1.3.6?). I've come to that conclusion based upon the following:
-6 days ago was autoupdated to 2.1.4.1 the problems started immediately. My setup was 2 wired sats and 1 wireless sat.
-performed full-reset as has been advocated on the forum. still nothing but problems.
-on day 5 decided to convert one of the wired sats back to wireless and left the other wired sat unplugged. (meaning I now have 2 wireless sats). I had 3 days of zero problems with this config.
-to test if the wired sat was the problem I turned it back on. It connected but it immediately knocked off one of my 2 wireless sats. No combination of router rebooting or sat rebooting could get the knocked off wireless sat to come back.
-conclusion: given that I had 3 days with zero problems without ethernet backhaul and then no more than 5 minutes after plugging in the 3rd sat with ethernet nothing but problems my conclusion is that ethernet backhaul is broken.
To advise netgear of my config, I've been on the forum for months and made sure that when I did the full reset 6 days ago that I had everything turned off including daisy chain. My wifi devices are very simple, a bunch of ipads and iphones and a couple of laptops. I don't have sonos, I don't have apple home, I don't have cameras, I don't use VPN. Other than a 2.5 ghz wifi sprinkler it is about as simple as you can get. All told I have less than 10 wifi clients. It can't be a orbi hardware issue because as soon as I unplugged the ethernet backhaul satellite and rebooted the wireless satellite and router one last time, the wifi satellite that refused to connect when there was ethernet sat present came back online in less than 3 minutes once that ether sat was gone.
-Right now I'm limping along with my 2 sats on wifi, really would like to be able to plug that 3rd sat back in but it is too far away from the orbi router is use wifi backhaul...this sat needs to be ethernet...ethernet availablilty was the whole reason I bought the orbi back in december.
My ISP is Uverse Gigapower. BGW210 is the gateway (wifi disabled). I have all the TV Set-top boxes isolated on a completely seperate netgear switch to ensure Uverse's multicast IGMP flooding is avoided. The orbi router is in AP mode with static IP. Every orbi option is turned off. I've set the wifi channel to one. I'm getting great performance out of the router and 2 wifi sats. Getting 400 MBPS up and down on all three.
Netgear: I'm hoping that you have enough evidence from the field now that you need to look closer at this latest firmware and provide an update to the forum community.
Peace_105
Apr 30, 2018Aspirant
I have the same issue I believe (started around April 24, 2018 while I was away on travels, but wife and kids complained), seems it has started after firm-ware auto updated to 2.1.4.10.
There has been NO changes in devices setups, satelite distance etc, so the problem seems definitely caused by Netgear latest firmware auto-update..
Symptom: My single Satelite goes Magenta (on and off all the time)... very frustrating. Have done the basic reboot, sync etc. Problem persists.
Not sure what "Ethernet backhaul" is?
Thus, not sure what I should do? or wait for Netgear to address this?... Appreciate any advice, thx.
- Peace_105Apr 30, 2018Aspirant
Update: I have unchecked the Enable Daisy-Chain Topology under Advanced tab --> Advanced Setup--> Wireless Settings as I only have one satellite (I do not need Daisy-chain)
Rebooted everything.
Still the problem persists = the Satellite drops connection with the Router repeatedly (goes on Magenta ... then goes blue, then Magenta again etc etc, all within 3-5 minutes cycles as it seems.
- budyApr 30, 2018Luminary
I actually do not have any issue with wired backhaul - it worked fine in each of the lastest FWs. I wonder, what people do see, if they try to sniff the wired network using tcpdump or Wireshark.
There must be some broadcast stroming going on, when the wired connections drop in such way.
- FURRYe38Apr 30, 2018Guru - Experienced User
What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem? Built in router here by chance?
Any network switches in the mix between the router and satellite?
Did you first set up the satellite via wifi, then connect the ethernet cable to the satellite and give it 5 minutes to re-configure the wired back haul?
Swap LAN cabling between router and satelllite to test.
Peace_105 wrote:
Update: I have unchecked the Enable Daisy-Chain Topology under Advanced tab --> Advanced Setup--> Wireless Settings as I only have one satellite (I do not need Daisy-chain)
Rebooted everything.
Still the problem persists = the Satellite drops connection with the Router repeatedly (goes on Magenta ... then goes blue, then Magenta again etc etc, all within 3-5 minutes cycles as it seems.
- Peace_105Apr 30, 2018Aspirant
@ FURRye38
"What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem? Built in router here by chance?
Any network switches in the mix between the router and satellite?"
I have Internet optic fibre, between that a small white box that convers signal to a "regular Ethernet" I assume, not sure what that one is called It says "Raycore", it is not a Router, I am pretty sure of that. Please note this is not a new setup, I have had the Orbi system for some 8 months. This latest problem started after firmware auto-update (most likely). I was away but wife and kids reported problems around April 24 (I just got back home and I am starting to deal with it).
"Did you first set up the satellite via wifi, then connect the ethernet cable to the satellite and give it 5 minutes to re-configure the wired back haul?
Swap LAN cabling between router and satelllite to test."
I have not connected any what so ever ethernet cable to the satellite. It is only connected to the Orbi Router by Wi-fi and was originally set up by Wi-Fi only.
So, I am not entirely sure what you mean? Should I connect the Orbi Satelite to the Orbi Router by Ethernet Cable and then do something?
Highly appreciate your time and effort to help!