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Possible set up RBK23 with Ethernet backhaul
Hello Everyone,
So I'm looking to buy this Package from Amazon. The RBK23.
https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Orbi-Ultra-Performance-Whole-System/dp/B07CQDHPFT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1548227...
The ISP modem is also a router. Right now I currently have a router connected to my ISP modem, with the modem's wifi turned off. So it basically is just providing ethernet to the router we currently use and a handful of other appliances. I'm not sure what you mean by mide.
So is it possible that since my ISP modem is a modem/router, that I can go with the set up that I described? Using the Orbi router and one satellite as access points and have the Orbi satellite connected wirelessly to one of the Orbi access points?
I only have one ethernet going from the modem to the where the Orbi router would be. So there's no way for me to get the modem to connect to the Orbi router and then run another ethernet to the satellite. This means I can't run the set up you show in your picture unless I run another wire. Which I would rather not do, but I can do. Also, I don't need a switch, right? I can just get an Ethernet Extender like one in the link shown below correct?
Which configuration would you recommend?
Thank you again for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate it very much.
I have the RBK23 set configured for wired ethernet backhaul.
Looks like this:
ISP Modem <> Dedicated Router (R7000 running AdvancedTomato) <> 1G unmanaged switch <> RBK23 (in AP mode)
- each of the RBS20 satellites are also connected to the 1G switch. I have 1 AP on each floor of the house.
- currently running FW V2.2.1.210
I'll be honest, I'm a technical person working in IT and the setup was NOT easy. Lots of reboots, firmware updates, factory resets... at one point I bricked one of the AP's and needed to recover it via SFTP -manually installing the firmware...
Need to methodically (slowly) get one node running at a time, using DHCP reservations for the satellites and a fixed IP for the "main AP". The whole system takes several (5 or more) minutes to adapt to each and any config changes you make. A full system reboot can take over 10 min... So be patient!
However now that is is all running it seems to be stable for the past couple of weeks.
One observation -I wish the wireless backhaul radios would shut off when they detect a wired backhaul. Running a wifi / spectrum analyzer you can see hidden the 2.4 & 5G backhaul radios blasting unused. I have no idea if this creates unnecessary "noise" and interference.
I now have great (fast) coverage into each corner of my house. The system as a whole does NOT seem to manage the band steering and roaming as well as I would like, but it is a decent compromise.
Thanks for the advice. I'm not super tech savvy but I have enough persistence to eventually get my equipment working. But still if I can run an extra wire over figuring out how to update the firmware, I guess the easier option here would be to just go with recommended set up of having my modem connected directly to my Orbi router and then my satellite that's farthest from the router to connect to the Orbi router with an Ethernet.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ADVICE!
One more comment - Make sure to set everything up as you want - where you want it - using the normal default wireless backhaul settings first. Test everything and make sure the system is running stable with the latest firmware for a while.
Create two DHCP reservations for the Satellites
Then one at a time switch the satelittes over to wired. -This seems to work better for most.
You should see the sattelites switch from Wirelss to "Wired" under the attached devices page of the main AP.
My 2c
brettich wrote:
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One observation -I wish the wireless backhaul radios would shut off when they detect a wired backhaul. Running a wifi / spectrum analyzer you can see hidden the 2.4 & 5G backhaul radios blasting unused. I have no idea if this creates unnecessary "noise" and interference.
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The wireless backhaul hidden networks will not shut off when using wired backhaul. I guess they are meant to be standby to take over in case anything happens in the wired cable. You can manually shut them off using telnet commands if you wish.
The wireless backhaul hidden networks will not shut off when using wired backhaul. I guess they are meant to be standby to take over in case anything happens in the wired cable. You can manually shut them off using telnet commands if you wish.
Thanks I will try that today.
The wireless backhaul hidden networks will not shut off when using wired backhaul. I guess they are meant to be standby to take over in case anything happens in the wired cable. You can manually shut them off using telnet commands if you wish.
I cannot find the interfaces / instructions on how to disable the wireless backhaul radios. I've spend the better part of the morning looking for them. Any ideas? I remember reading about it last week but can not find the post!
brettich wrote:
I cannot find the interfaces / instructions on how to disable the wireless backhaul radios. I've spend the better part of the morning looking for them. Any ideas? I remember reading about it last week but can not find the post!
To disable the backhaul, please follow the following steps:
- From browser go to the router's debug page (http://192.168.1.1/debug.htm). Use your router's IP address or http://orbilogin.com/debug.htm
- Enter admin as user name and your router’s management password
- Tick "Enable Telnet" option
- Use Telnet to connect to your Router telnet 192.168.1.1 and enter admin and the same password as above
- Enter the commands:
- config set endis_wla_2nd_radio=0
- config get wl5g_BACKHAUL_AP --> printout should be usually ath2
- ifconfig ath2 down --> ath2 is the output from the previous get command
The above is to disable the backhaul in the router. Please make sure that Daisy Chain is diabled so you will not have backhaul networks out of the satellites.
Good luck
