Using Orbi nbr750 as fail over option for UDM WAN connection

[Soelau]

I’m trying to figure out how I can set up the NBR750 as a fail over Internet connection on the UDM router. So it means I will not be using the router of the NBR750. I’m having trouble finding a way to set up the Netgear device in bridge mode or in AP mode. I am simply not able to select it in the menu. It’s all greyed out

[CrimpOn]

This is correct.  See page 23 of the user manual:

https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBK752/RBK752_UM_EN.pdf 

Failover is explained on page 24.

My sense is that the premise is that Netgear intends for the NBK750 to "be the router".

p.s. Uncertain what "UDM" stands for.

[Soelau]

Sorry ubiquity dream machine se

[CrimpOn]

Ubiquity Dream Machine appears to be a similar concept:

• allow multiple internet connections
• sense when one no longer provides service and "fail over" to the other one.

In addition, Ubiquity also provides a "load balancing" feature where both internet connections are used at the same time.

My sense is that these products do not "fit".  The Orbi expects to be a router with two ISP connections.  The Ubiquity Dream Machine expects to be a router with two ISP connections.

• If the Ubiquity is to be the primary WiFi system, then the way forward is to get an LTE modem of some sort for the failover path.
• If the Orbi is to be the primary WiFi system, then either remove the Ubiquity (and use the ISP modem) or put the Ubiquity into passthrough mode.

Sorry not to be more help.

[Soelau]

appreciate your reply never the less. I am not gonna be using Wi-Fi at all on any of them. What about bridge or ap mode are these not relevant?

[CrimpOn]

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@Soelau wrote:
appreciate your reply never the less. I am not gonna be using Wi-Fi at all on any of them.

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It seems a bit odd to purchase two WiFi routers and not use WiFi on either of them.... But... whatever.

The NBR750 does not have to be in bridge mode to serve as a failover for the Ubiquiti.

Unless.... (of course), there is a need to support applications that require a public IP address.

(port forwarding, VPN into the LAN, certain internet gaming.

Since Ubiquiti seems to be the primary system, I would tend to defer to Ubiquiti support for the best way to provide failover.

[Soelau]

I bought the orbi as part of a low-cost 5G connection. Where are the orbi what is included. But maybe I should consider using this product instead of the dream machine if you guys think it’s a great ruler and can handle fail over scenarios. But my scenario is I need to have external static. IP address is on both my connections and I wanted to let the dream machine to the routing. I hope you understand why I don’t actually need the Wi-Fi.

[CrimpOn]

Static IP on a 5G router is something I would bring up with the wireless carrier*.  According to the QR code I just scanned, the NBR750 is compatible with:

North America:

AT&T

T-Mobile - with BYOD mobile hotspot plan

Verizon

Europe:

Dogota; Re[ib;oc

Hutch Denmark

Hutch Switzerland

* My brief internet search was inconclusive (i.e. mostly "why can't we have a static IP?" or "Geez - $500!!!")

It is sort of unusual to hear of users who have zero WiFi devices.

[Soelau]

I think the price offered for this unit and 5g subscription is fairly good hence I wanna use it as a 5g fail over

[CrimpOn]

As with many networking projects, "the devil is in the details."

• As a system by itself, the NBR750 provides the capability to connect to two ISP's, one typical and one using 5G.
  That accomplishes one aspect of the project.  The Dream Machine is surplus to requirements, but could be attached to the Orbi router and placed in whatever mode is useful. (for example, as an Access Point).
• It is not clear (to me) how to get a public IP address on a 5G connection compatible with the NBR750.
• As a failover for the Dream Machine, things are more complicated. When using 5G, the NBR must be in 'router mode'.
  It is possible to forward ports through the Orbi to the Dream Machine, which can then do whatever processing it does with the other ISP link.  (Just for fun, I once set up three routers in a row.  Forwarded a port through the first router to the second.  Then through the second to the third. Then through the third to a server.  Really tedious. But worked.)

Good luck getting answers out of these folks.

[Soelau]

Thank you very much for your considerations and suggestions. I might try that approach. I originally just thought this was a no brainer as in fact the 3 Hutchinson product is listed with a static ip. However they provide zero support for it and just referred me to netgear