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Re: Double NAT / Strict NAT
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Re: Double NAT / Strict NAT
Ok.
Who is your ISP?
Do you have access to the modems web page at 192.168.100.1?
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Cox is my ISP - Yes sir, I can log into my modem.
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Ok, you might factory reset the modem and RBR. Leave OFF the RBS for now. Just do a reset. Use a wired PC directly connected to the modem after it's reset and make sure it's in modem mode. I Think it should be by default. Your PC should get a ## IP address. If so, disconnect the PC and connect up the RBR and connect your wired PC to the RBR and walk thru the setup wizard and complete it. Don't add the RBS. After you complete the setup wizard, wired connect up one xbox. See what NAT status is has. If it's not OPEN, hold the front power button the xbox until it shuts off. Reboot the modem and RBR together. After the RBR is ready, power ON the xbox. NAT should be open here.
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Ok, factory reset the modem and router.
I have the RBS reset and offline, unplugged.
There isn't anyplace to set the modem to modem only since it's already a bridge modem.
Did a tracert and the first IP that hops is 10.##.###.#
*Now, going to fire up the Orbi and set it up.
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Ya wondering if the modem is really bridged. Your PC should have got a ## IP address while connected to the modem.
This maybe the problem.
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Be sure to power OFF the modem for 30 seconds along with the Orbi. Connect the RBR. Power ON the ISP modem then power ON the RBR about 10 seconds later.
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Yeah, that was user error...
So I have everything back up and running and OPEN NAT on the X-Box. But, it usually gives me open NAT right after a reboot anyway.
I am going to go buy a different modem and a new Orbi. I am not sure what the problem is but will keep you posted. When I run a tracert now I am still getting the exact same hops so I am somewhat certain my open NAT will not last.
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Ok.
Try turning on a 2nd Xbox while the first one on ON. OPEN NAT on 2nd Xbox? If so, try 3rd Xbox.
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Yep, it's whowing OPEN as well. The third one is connected to my satellite so not going to start on that just yet but so far, the two on the router (wired & wi-fi) are open.
However, I did a test run of two seperate multiplayer games and they both were kicked mid match. I don't think it's "staying" open, if that makes sense.
Any suggesstions on a good Docsis 3.1 cable modem for gig service? I am going to stick with Orbi but going to replace the modem.
Looking at the NetGear Nighthawk CM1200. Any thoughts?
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But hey, at least the double NAT problems seems to have gone away...
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What FW version is loaded?
What are the CTS and RTS values? Be sure to check your CTS and RTS values. If they are at 64, please change both to 2347. Reboot both RBR and wireless devices.
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected. https://kb.netgear.com/000036466/How-far-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite-from-my-Orbi-router
I wish you had not exchanged your prior Orbi AX with a new one.
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CTS & RTS are set at 2347.
Distance is 30 feet or less, probably close to 20 feet.
After spending most of the weekend working on this, I thought I had the answer. I turned off the AX features, switched the NAT filtering to open and turned and disabled port monitoring/ dds protection. Seemed like everything was working fine, open NAT on all systems and I watched a 4K movie all the way through without a hitch.
Now today, we are getting Strict NAT on consoles again and frequent disconnects. The disconnects are happening on both WiFi PCs and hard wired PCs.
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I saw strict NAT with this version while in router mode. Why I ran mine in AP mode. Any versions sans v10.11 cause strict NAT issues while in router mode.
Setting NAT Filter to OPEN doesn't work. I've had a bug report on this since the beginning. NG still hasn't fixed it.
Where are you streaming the 4K movie? On xbox? If so, Try this, take one device and disable uPnP and set a IP address reservation on your xbox. Then input this IP address into the RBRs DMZ.
Reboot the RBR and again hold the xbox front power button until it turns off. After the RBR is back online, power ON the xbox and check NAT status. Be sure all other consoles or OFF. Or do this for the streaming device your using to stream the 4K.
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Understand. Hope you find something that works well for you.
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I will work on fixes for the NAT issues but the disconnects that were driving me nuts has gone away.
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Is the NAT issue with the RBS being online and the consoles connecting thru it or directly to the RBR?
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One console hard wired to RBR.
One console hard wired to RBS.
One console through RBS wifi.
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Ok, possible uPnP issued between Orbi and the consoles. I know I have two however they are one separate networks.
Do manually changing ports on each gets OPEN NAT on each of the consoles?
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Like I said, it's not ideal and we've never had to do this before, but it IS a working work-around.
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OK, great information. I'll forward this on the NG. I know there is some problems with xbox NAT and Orbi AX. This is a uPnP and NAT Filter issue. NAT Filter set to OPEN would be helpful unfortunately it's not working at the moment. I think once NG gets that fixed, then you won't have to manually set ports on consoles.
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Of course. Having two xboxes here is important to have good working systems. NAT status and CoD is priority.
I posted a link to this in the bug report I have going and gave some feedback. Hoping NG will look into this.
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This firmware has know problem of disconnecting from many games. The easiest way temporary is turn on your cable modem routing (rather than bridge mode), and put Obri AX into AP mode.
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