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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

asmitty512
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Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

I'm using the AX6000 (RBK852 or RBR850) with Spectrum Internet 1Gbps service (940 Mbps) which has a lame 40Gbps up, but that may or may not matter. There is one satellite and one router.

 

WebEx seems to work, I haven't noticed any problems on my end. However we are always unstable with Zoom or online gaming. I run speed tests from the Orbi app which amazingly always shows premium speeds of 1145 Mbps down and 43 Mbps up. Speed tests from my various laptops usually show half the download.

 

Over the last weeks the service has gotten worse. Streaming movies to multiple TV's is no problem. Zoom and gaming are the issue. We have about 34 devices connected, about half via wired connection and they are performing well. 

 

Support told me to update DNS to static and using Google (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4). I have also tried disabling SIP ALG as well per Netgear community (see below). Any other suggestions?

 

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asmitty512
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000


@FURRYe38 wrote:

What Firmware version is currently loaded?

Firmware Version V3.2.16.22_1.4.9
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?

This is a harder question than I expected. It is listed on my portal as EN2251(Hitron) but doesn't look like the images. I'm not an expert on sleuthing this out. It looks more like 

E31N2V1

 

What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? Yes, there is 30 feet. Standard new construction of sheetrock.  
https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite

 

Any Wifi Neighbors near by? Yes. If so, how many? At least 3 broadcasting SSID. Not sure how I would know. 

 

Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Try setting CTS to 2347. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).


 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?

 

What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite

 

Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

 

Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Try setting CTS to 2347. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).

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asmitty512
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000


@FURRYe38 wrote:

What Firmware version is currently loaded?

Firmware Version V3.2.16.22_1.4.9
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?

This is a harder question than I expected. It is listed on my portal as EN2251(Hitron) but doesn't look like the images. I'm not an expert on sleuthing this out. It looks more like 

E31N2V1

 

What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? Yes, there is 30 feet. Standard new construction of sheetrock.  
https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite

 

Any Wifi Neighbors near by? Yes. If so, how many? At least 3 broadcasting SSID. Not sure how I would know. 

 

Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Try setting CTS to 2347. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).


 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

This one? https://www.hitrontech.com/product/en2251/

 

Or this one? https://www.hitrontech.com/product/e31n2v1/

 

Try installing a wifi scanning app on a pad if you have one. 

Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.

 

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asmitty512
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

Looks like this one

https://d15yx0mnc9teae.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/SpectrumD31EMTA_New_Sheet.pdf

 

And to be clear, all my devices connect to wifi. It is only the Zoom and online gaming services that are problematic.

 

And thank you for spending your time providing assistance.

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FURRYe38
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

Ok, your ok on the modem. Just checking for built in router here. Which it doesn't have.

 

What are your speeds seen with a wired PC connected to the back of the RBR? 

Some wifi devices will not see much over 400-500Mbps. Due to limiation of wifi antenna design. My iPhone 12 Max only sees around 400-500 average. Wired speeds thru the RBR should be near 900Mpbs...

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asmitty512
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I don't have anything wired, but the Orbi app which I think is testing all wired connections shows 1143 Gbps down 41.44 up.

MacBook pro sitting 17 feet from the RBR852 shows 797.96 Mbps down.

And I have learned it is next to impossible to turn Armor off. I have now tried 4 times. It still comes back. 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

Ok thats good connection rate for the Mac. Same thing I see on my Mac Book Pro.

 

Even after a factory reset and don't setup Armor, its gets enabled? 

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asmitty512
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

I was just able to disable the Armor after manual rebooting. I'm asking my family to try out for next 24 hours and return with: Better performance, Same performance, Worse performance rating. Thanks to everyone.

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FURRYe38
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

Keep us posted. 

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asmitty512
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

Problems resolved. I do not know which step was the fix and I may go back this evening and turn Armor back on and evaluate network performance. For now, everyone is happy.
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FURRYe38
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Re: Problems with Zoom and online gaming with AX6000

OK, good to hear. Possible Armor could be causing problems. Let us know if you re-enable and see the problem appear...

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