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Upgrade Your Internet Experience With The Orbi WiFi 6 With Built-in DOCSIS 3.1 Cable Modem

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The newest member of the Orbi WiFi 6 family has arrived and it’s packed with features that is designed to meet the growing demands of your home network. The brand new, all-in-one Orbi Mesh WiFi 6 System with built-in DOCSIS 3.1 Cable Modem combines the latest and greatest internet and WiFi technologies to give you the ultimate smart home experience. The Orbi CBK752 supports the fastest Gigabit speed plans from your Internet Service Provider, gives you more capacity for even more connected devices, and of course, Orbi’s award-winning whole home WiFi coverage. For homes that need the best connection possible to avoid buffering, lag, or coverage issues while working and learning from home or for entertainment, Orbi’s powerful mesh WiFi 6 system with built-in cable modem is sure to handle the needs of your home. Even more, by upgrading your equipment and losing the ISP rental lease, you’ll get the best performance possible while saving up to $168 per year on rental fees.

 

Read our Blog to learn more about the Orbi WiFi 6 with Built-in Cable Modem: https://blog.netgear.com/blog/enhance-your-home-network-with-the-orbi-mesh-wifi-6-system-with-docsis...

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Is this a modem and router all in One? What companies use this model? I bought a Netgear Nighthawk first time with Netgear, mostly use 2 other brands, thought I would give you a chance. Tech personal from Sparklight worked with me for two days, tried calling Netgear 3 times in 2 days because we could never get a full connection. Each time on waited for 30 minutes then the line cut off. It was brought back to the store. Sparkling is looking at taking that one off their approved list and I will never buy another product. If I can't get through to a customer service tech in an hour and half waiting, this was the 2nd most expensive router/modem you have on the market. Last year for Christmas bought 4 cable modem routers for 4 sons and family. Bought 2 netgear 2 motorol. 1- netgear never could get hooked up even after working with your team and second one stopped working at 14 months. Out of warranty. No replacement. Both Motorola still going strong and both very easy to set up. This was my third TIME WITH a Netgear product would NOT recommend Poor Customer Service even during pre-pandemic times. Even during these times, you said to be patient and registered netgear persons receive priority. 30 minutes 3 times is not priority, don't use the pandemic as an excuse, get MORE tech. People.

Model: C7500|Nighthawk X4-AC3200 WiFi Cable Modem Router
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Yes.

 

Cable ISP services. 

 

What are you having problems with? 

Have the ISP check the signal and line quality UP to the modem. 
Be sure there are no coax cable line splitters in the between the modem and ISP service box. 
Be sure your using good quality RG6 coax cable up to the modem. 

 

Ive had my CBK40 connected a couple of years ago to Cableone, prior SparkLight. Worked very well for me. Ive not put it online since Sparklight took over. Been using NGs CM series modems since. Now on a CAX80 from NG. 


@kate1976 wrote:
Is this a modem and router all in One? What companies use this model? I bought a Netgear Nighthawk first time with Netgear, mostly use 2 other brands, thought I would give you a chance. Tech personal from Sparklight worked with me for two days, tried calling Netgear 3 times in 2 days because we could never get a full connection. Each time on waited for 30 minutes then the line cut off. It was brought back to the store. Sparkling is looking at taking that one off their approved list and I will never buy another product. If I can't get through to a customer service tech in an hour and half waiting, this was the 2nd most expensive router/modem you have on the market. Last year for Christmas bought 4 cable modem routers for 4 sons and family. Bought 2 netgear 2 motorol. 1- netgear never could get hooked up even after working with your team and second one stopped working at 14 months. Out of warranty. No replacement. Both Motorola still going strong and both very easy to set up. This was my third TIME WITH a Netgear product would NOT recommend Poor Customer Service even during pre-pandemic times. Even during these times, you said to be patient and registered netgear persons receive priority. 30 minutes 3 times is not priority, don't use the pandemic as an excuse, get MORE tech. People.


 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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@kate1976 wrote:
Is this a modem and router all in One? What companies use this model?


Yes, it's a modem/router all in one.  I'm currently using this CBR752 with Comcast at home.  It's working very well for me.  WiFi range/coverage and speed have improved comparing to my prior RBK53 setup.  Good luck.

 

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Thanks for letting us know. Glad its working well. 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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I upgraded two days ago (CBK752) with this model and it has been the worst upgrade I have every had to deal with. My 2nd floor devices (Xbox, PC) are dropping 3 times a day. In addition to saying I have no Internet, yet my TV downstairs never loses connection to Hulu or Netflix. My previous older setup never dropped, I simply just didn't have the range for my master bedroom, so  don't blame my ISP. Why am I having so many problems with this and why do I need to spend hours trying to troubleshoot something that should work out of the box. I loath having to call Tech support and I'm so pissed off right now. 

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What Firmware version is currently loaded?

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and devices? 

Where in the home is the CBR located? Main or 1st floor centrally is recommended...


What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

 

Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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Hello,

 

What Firmware version is currently loaded:

Router CBR750: v3.2.16.9, Satellite RBS 750 v3.2.16.6 (no updates)

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?

1800sq ft

 

What is the distance between the router and devices? 

Xbox(s), PC, Smart TV are between 15 to 30 feet away from the Satellite

 

Is the drops happening with both wired and wireless devices?

Drop only happens on the wireless devices on the 2nd floor. Tv on the first floor that is "Wired" does not lose connection.

 

Where in the home is the CBR located? Main or 1st floor centrally is recommended:

CBR is on the first floor.


What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.

Try disabling the following and see:
Armor, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Set Short preamble instead of Long preamble modes. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).
I have implemented these changes and will follow up after testing the network. 

 

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Might try the system with out the RBS as well to see if the problem comes at the CBR or not...

 

Keep us posted...


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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I recently purchased, very recently, the Nighthawk c7800 cable modem router.  I need to extend its range. Should I have gotten the ORBI system instead? Can ORBI be added to my C7800 configuration. What is the best way to extend the range on my C7800. In the past I have had unsuccessful results in dealing with range extenders have they gotten better and if I use them on my C 7800 will it be as good as an orbi mesh system

Model: C7800|Nighthawk X4S-AC3200 WiFi Cable Modem Router
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If the wifi coverage is not enough when using the C series modem, you can add on NGs EX series wifi extenders to the C7800 wifi and one or two of these will help extend wifi coverage. EX7500, 7700 or 8000 would be suggested for use with the C7800.

 

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?


@TimboRanch wrote:

I recently purchased, very recently, the Nighthawk c7800 cable modem router.  I need to extend its range. Should I have gotten the ORBI system instead? Can ORBI be added to my C7800 configuration. What is the best way to extend the range on my C7800. In the past I have had unsuccessful results in dealing with range extenders have they gotten better and if I use them on my C 7800 will it be as good as an orbi mesh system


 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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I am strongly considering using the EX7700 as the range extender for my C7800 Nighthawk. It's a 1-acre property and the house itself is pretty well covered with existing C7800 WIFI. I'm looking for better coverage outside the home and in the garage. My thought was to put the EX7700 at the other end of the home nearer to or in the garage to get better coverage outside. 

Is there a configuration that would work with my C7800 with the external antennas on the outside of the house

Model: EX7700|AC2200 Nighthawk X6 Tri-Band WiFi Mesh Extender
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Any chance you can have some CAT6A or CAT6 cabling installed between the home and garage? Would be best if you could get a wire out to the garage and then you could place a EX7700 wire connected in AP mode to the modem inside the house. 

What is the distance from the home to the garage? 


@TimboRanch wrote:

I am strongly considering using the EX7700 as the range extender for my C7800 Nighthawk. It's a 1-acre property and the house itself is pretty well covered with existing C7800 WIFI. I'm looking for better coverage outside the home and in the garage. My thought was to put the EX7700 at the other end of the home nearer to or in the garage to get better coverage outside. 

Is there a configuration that would work with my C7800 with the external antennas on the outside of the house


 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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First of all thanks for your help.  Distance from C7800 to is about 150 ft.  QUESTION: WIFI connected extender versus ethernet connected access point. Can you explain why one is better than the other. When I connect my brand new Chromebook via Ethernet to my C7800 Speed Test shows 220mbps. Wifi-connected Speed Test shows 400 Mbps.  Why is ethernet connected access point better than WIFI connected extender.

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Wired is always better than wireless, espeically when it comes to disstance. 150 feet is quite a ways and distance for good signal to travel vs wired can carry that distance. 

 

Connection rates are different from actual speed test bandwidth. The 400Mpbs is a connect rate between the device and the modem only. Actual thruput speedtests will a bit slower or less than 400mpbs depending on the wifi mfrs design and support for connection rates and actual thruput speeds. 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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I just bought the ex8000. I will try it wirelessly first but CAT6A cable will be part of my plan if necessary. Here is my question for you. Should I run the cable as part of the initial installation because the results will be significantly greater. Or, should I try it wirelessly first because that MAY solve my connectivity issues.

 

My C7800 works perfectly.  When I install the EX8000 will they automatically see each other and automatically configure? The distance between my Netgear devices will be less than 60 ft. I will then use your Netgear Wi-Fi analytics app see if it gives me Wireless speed that I'm looking for in the garage and backyard. 

 

I know that you are a ORBI guy but, can I continue to use you for knowledge, configuration and OPTIMISATION of my Netgear devices.

Model: EX8000|AC3000 Nighthawk X6S Tri Band WiFi Mesh Extender
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@TimboRanch wrote:

I just bought the ex8000. I will try it wirelessly first but CAT6A cable will be part of my plan if necessary. Here is my question for you. Should I run the cable as part of the initial installation because the results will be significantly greater. Or, should I try it wirelessly first because that MAY solve my connectivity issues.

Try wireless first to see how it does. Doesn't hurt to try this. 

 

My C7800 works perfectly.  When I install the EX8000 will they automatically see each other and automatically configure? The distance between my Netgear devices will be less than 60 ft. I will then use your Netgear Wi-Fi analytics app see if it gives me Wireless speed that I'm looking for in the garage and backyard. 

You'll be walking thru the EX8000s setup wizard to set up the EX for you. Use the user installation guide to help you with this. 

 

I know that you are a ORBI guy but, can I continue to use you for knowledge, configuration and OPTIMISATION of my Netgear devices. I also have the C7800 modem thought I haven't used it in a while. :smileyembarrassed:


 


My Setup (Cable 900Mbps/50Mbps)>CAX80>XR450 v2.3.2.106(Router Mode)>RBK853 v3.2.11.2(AP Mode)
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CM1200/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, RBK853, R7800, R7960P,
EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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