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scttq
Jan 17, 2019Guide
Anyone Successfully Using Mixed Wireless and Wired Backhaul?
Hi,
I've been using an AC3000 system (w/ 2 satellites) for about 1.5 years, been through some ugly times with constant disconnects but the platform really seems to have improved over the last y...
- Jan 23, 2019
It's been 4 days now and all is still good.
To summarize (based on my observations):
- I added an AV rack, rack switch and wired backhaul to my basement, previously was on wireless with everything working fine
- Day after this new setup, entire network went down
- Two seperate issues were discovered:
- Four Sonos components were hard wired to the switch, the components don't automatically disable their wifi connection and apparently introduced a network loop
- My Sony Android TV when connected over ethernet tends to cause a type of network storm over UDP because of a bug in the Chromecast feature. This was corrected for the wifi adapter but not the ethernet adapter.
I'll report back if any issues come up but as of now, the Orbi seems to be more of a victim of these issues than a cause of the network failure.
scttq
Jan 17, 2019Guide
Wow, some great input, thank you FURRYe38 & ekhalil!
I will disable DS, notwork map shows its not being used anyways.
And for the Sonos, that is looking super suspicious, I'm seeing something very similar described in this thread - https://en.community.sonos.com/advanced-setups-229000/network-loop-and-broadcast-storms-with-sonos-6736957
Sonos now provides the ability to disable wifi in the room settings, I'm going to try disabling the wifi on all the hardwired Sonos components except for the Boost.
Thank you for the guidance!
ekhalil
Jan 17, 2019Master
scttq wrote:
......., I'm going to try disabling the wifi on all the hardwired Sonos components except for the Boost.
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That will not help, you have to disconnect the wired Sonos devices except one. You can only have one wired Sonos device to Orbi not more.
- scttqJan 17, 2019Guide
Gotcha, that seems odd.
The chatter I found on Sonos causing loops seems to point to having both wifi and the ethernet connection enabled, which is the default, you need to manually change it.
Is there something about the Orbi system that makes it sensitive to this or just the way it is?
- ekhalilJan 17, 2019Master
scttq wrote:
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Is there something about the Orbi system that makes it sensitive to this or just the way it is?
No, any other system will not accept this setup. I tried this earlier with my Apple Airport routers and I got similar issues.
Sonosnet (which is created once you wire the first Sonos to Orbi) is a wifi network connecting all Sonos devices to each other, so wiring another or more Sonos is -to simplify- like connecting one computer with two or more Ethernet ports without defining routing rules.
- cscheieneJan 17, 2019Star
ekhalil wrote:
scttq wrote:
......., I'm going to try disabling the wifi on all the hardwired Sonos components except for the Boost.
.......
That will not help, you have to disconnect the wired Sonos devices except one. You can only have one wired Sonos device to Orbi not more.
I did have network loops when I hardwired multiple Sonos. So I only hardwired one of them, fixed the problem. The disable wifi setting was not available back then. But when they recently added this feature I tried to hardwire some of the Sonos again and disable the wireless radio on those units. It work just fine, both Sonos and the Orbi system
- ekhalilJan 17, 2019Master
cscheiene wrote:
I did have network loops when I hardwired multiple Sonos. So I only hardwired one of them, fixed the problem. The disable wifi setting was not available back then. But when they recently added this feature I tried to hardwire some of the Sonos again and disable the wireless radio on those units. It work just fine, both Sonos and the Orbi system
Thanks for the information. May be disabling wifi on the speaker forces it to only use the Orbi network and thus separate it from the Sonos own network!
scttq plesse try this and see if that helps as a first option.
- scttqJan 17, 2019Guide
Excellent, my plan is to disable daisy-chain and keep the satellites wireless for the next 5-7 days. I still have the switch connected to the RBR50 and have disabled wifi on each hardwired Sonos component except the Boost (the same switch had 4 Sonos components hardwired to it). I'll let this bake in for 5-7 days and see if anything comes up.
cscheiene do you have any of your Sonos components daisy chained or all direct to a port? Sonos Support says daisy chaining is 100% supported, I am currently setup this way 1 level deep.