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Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

techc0de
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Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Hello all,

I had read many threads and tried out several methods suggested by the community to disable the auto update on my Orbi RBK50.

The currently firmware is v2.7.3.22, and I tried rolled it back to v2.7.2.104.

It worked but then the router auto update the firmware itself to a newer version the next day.

I want to stay on v2.7.2.104 for the Telnet feature.

 

 

Here the commands that I used:

 

nvram set orbi_auto_upgrade=0
nvram set auto_check_for_upgrade=0
nvram set auto_update=0
nvram set orbi_auto_upg=0
nvram set orbi_auto_flag=0
nvram set telnetd_enable=1
nvram commit

Any suggestion is helpful.

 

Thanks

 

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FURRYe38
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Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Install a upstream router for firewall device in front of the RBR and block services there...

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techc0de
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Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

My current setup is using an AT&T Modem/Router unit as a passthrough for the Orbi router.

 

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Add the following key words to the ATT router:
http.fw.updates1.netgear.com

updates1.netgear.com

 

I believe you'll need to remove IP-pass thru to make this work...

You should see "Service Not Reachable" on the RBRs FW update check page if it works. 

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techc0de
Aspirant

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

 

 

I'm going to try your suggestion for the block the netgear url.

I don't think the Orbi router would work without using as a passthrough from AT&T Modem/Router unit.

Thanks

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

It will work if it doesn't have the IP pass thru, you'll be in a double NAT condition. You may or may not see issues with certain apps or online services. If your a gamer then you may see more issues while in double NAT. 

You can configured the RBR for AP mode and use it in AP mode to avoid double NAT issues while blocking those URLs. 

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techc0de
Aspirant

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

If I set the Orbi router as a AP, would I lose the DHCP and the port forwarding functionalities ?

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

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100won
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Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

I scanned some domains' netgear.

http.fw.updates1.netgear.com,

updates1.netgear.com,

time-e.netgear.com,

e70.g.akamaiedge.net,

www.netgear.com,

netgear.com,

devcom.up.netgear.com,

registration.ngxcld.com,

netgear-devrecog.fing.io

 

If you use pfsense, you will create alias and create rules on WAN tab then block Router & Satellite IP access Alias. See picture below.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Only ones needed are:

http.fw.updates1.netgear.com

updates1.netgear.com

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100won
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Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Hi,

I tried to block 2 domains but failed.

http.fw.updates1.netgear.com

updates1.netgear.com

So that I scanned some domains which the router and satellite access.

 

When you go to Advanced - Administration - Firmware Update. The router will access to devcom.up.netgear.com, a1599er83nvyl8.iot.us-west-2.amazonaws.com, www.netgear.com

When using NG's ntp server, it will connect to time-e.netgear.com

 

The "cached" domain a1599er83nvyl8.iot.us-west-2.amazonaws.com can change anytime they want. That is the reason I list some domains.

 

If we use pfsense, we can block only .*netgear.com, .*ngxcld.com for all subdomains. And e70.g.akamaiedge.netUntitled.png

 

I tried to update voxel's firmware, the router access to this domain: netgear-devrecog.fing.io

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100won
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Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Add more picture

 

Message 12 of 16
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

If you block only those two, then go in and check the FW updates and run a FW Update Check, the status should report "Service Not Available". 

 

Voxels FW won't update anything but his stuff however not sure if he set up auto update for his FW or users just have to manually install FW update. Been a while since I used his FW. 

Message 13 of 16
CrimpOn
Guru

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Voxel's firmware does not auto-update.  Manual only.

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100won
Star

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Yes, I knew he turned off auto update but I saw the netgear-devrecog.fing.io domain when scanning the Voxel's installed router.

After returning stock firmware, I have not seen that domain anymore.

 

//Someone try to convert RBR50 to SRR60? Smiley LOL

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Disable auto update on Orbi RBK50 ?

Ah no. 

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