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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

mrfranc
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Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

A new Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102 installed automatically during the night. So far so good!

Model: RBK53|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System
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alokeprasad
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Thats not listed on the download page.

https://www.netgear.com/support/product/RBK50.aspx

 

What do the Release Notes say? I bet it is about security fixes.

Pretty gutsy of Netgear to push an update to the device without giving the user a chance to opt out ...

 

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.2.104
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
Model: RBK53|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System
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alokeprasad
Mentor

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

This was released on 12/23.  Could be related to that.

https://kb.netgear.com/000062737/Security-Advisory-for-Pre-Authentication-Stack-Overflow-on-Some-Rou...

 

Googling PSV-2020-0224 gives more information on this exploit.

 

PS: My RBK50 is still happy with 2.5.2.4.  No new updates detected by the device.  Funny how these things work....

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.2.104
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
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GMoGoody8
Apprentice

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Looks like the update is for people who were using the US version, 2.7.1.60.

Mine didn’t auto update. I just installed this version now too.
My Setup (Cable 1000Mbps/50Mbps)>CM1000>RBR50 V2.7.2.102(Router Mode)
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alokeprasad
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Its like thay have 3 distinct lineages existing in parallel: 2.5.X, 2.6.X and 2.7.X

 

You'd think this would result in more complicated tech support. 

It is better, in general, to have one tested and tried platform and have that intalled on their user base.

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.2.104
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
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GMoGoody8
Apprentice

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

I 100% Agree. It really is annoying and potentially can get non techie owners into trouble. NGs customer service isn't the greatest so most people com here. I think they  break down to this now 

2.5.X --> Outside US and people that don't subscribe to armor or parental controls.
2.6.X --> This is the more recent 2.5.X
2.7.X --> US Armor and Parental Control subscribers. 

I accidenatally went to the 2.7 some time back  and I am hesitant to revert to 2.5.X/2.6.X as I don't use parental controls or armor. I decided to stay even with the annoying App popups at times to "setup/subscribe" to those services. 

My Setup (Cable 1000Mbps/50Mbps)>CM1000>RBR50 V2.7.2.102(Router Mode)
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vajim
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@mrfranc wrote:

A new Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102 installed automatically during the night. So far so good!


Automatically?

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alokeprasad
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@GMoGoody8 wrote:

I I think they  break down to this now 

2.5.X --> Outside US and people that don't subscribe to armor or parental controls.
2.6.X --> This is the more recent 2.5.X
2.7.X --> US Armor and Parental Control subscribers. 


 

That would explain my staying at 2.5.2.4, as I don't use Armor or parental control either.

However, their security page implies that they are applying the fixes to the later versions only.  Which is troubling.

Orbi RBK50v2 ver 2.7.2.104
Love my Orbi (with this firmware version).
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tagteam
Virtuoso

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@vajim wrote:

@mrfranc wrote:

A new Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102 installed automatically during the night. So far so good!


Automatically?


Do we have a universal definition of "automatically" for this purpose. For example, I was on 2.7.1.60 and the new firmware (2.7.2.102) "automatically" downloaded when I checked for updates (that was the first time new firmware downloaded, using the web UI, in a long, long time). I installed it (via the "Update All" button) without experiencing any issues (thus far).

 

In the past, when new firmware downloaded (as I described above - after checking), the firmware would just sort of sit there and then install sometime overnight. I suppose that would be (or should be) considered "automatically installed".

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vajim
Master

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@tagteam wrote:

@vajim wrote:

@mrfranc wrote:

A new Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102 installed automatically during the night. So far so good!


Automatically?


Do we have a universal definition of "automatically" for this purpose. For example, I was on 2.7.1.60 and the new firmware (2.7.2.102) "automatically" downloaded when I checked for updates (that was the first time new firmware downloaded, using the web UI, in a long, long time). I installed it (via the "Update All" button) without experiencing any issues (thus far).

 

In the past, when new firmware downloaded (as I described above - after checking), the firmware would just sort of sit there and then install sometime overnight. I suppose that would be (or should be) considered "automatically installed".


IMHO...'automatically' means you go to bed and when you wake up there's a new FW installed.  You did nothing.  In your case I would not call that automatic for you had to click a button and authorize/request the update.

Many feel that because the app or web login indicates there is a new FW available you must install.  That is NOT the case and goes to what has been discussed here (both sides) about how you the user has a choice which was not always the case in the past.  Itr is my understanding that if NG feels you NEED a update then those are the ones that are pushed auto pilot.

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tagteam
Virtuoso

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@vajim wrote:
IMHO...'automatically' means you go to bed and when you wake up there's a new FW installed.  You did nothing.  In your case I would not call that automatic for you had to click a button and authorize/request the update.

But all I actually did, initially at least, was simply click the "Firmware Update" link in the "Administration" section of the web UI; the new firmware then downloaded without further intervention on my part.

 

I chose to install the firmware immediately, yes, but I'm fairly certain it would have installed itself during downtime (probably overnight) had I done nothing. I would call the foregoing procedure "automatic", at least somewhat.

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vajim
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@tagteam wrote:

@vajim wrote:
IMHO...'automatically' means you go to bed and when you wake up there's a new FW installed.  You did nothing.  In your case I would not call that automatic for you had to click a button and authorize/request the update.

I chose to install the firmware immediately, yes, but I'm fairly certain it would have installed itself during downtime (probably overnight) had I done nothing. I would call the foregoing procedure "automatic", at least somewhat.


That's a huge assumption.  However, you may be able to determine if it's true IF others report that it showed up in their system 'automatically'. No clicking allowed.

 

From my personal experience the ones that are auto-pushed are few and far between.  In that past this was the opposite for everything was pushed.  Then users wanted wanted freedom and whined and complained.  

 

But if your recent FW update works for you, then life is good.

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tagteam
Virtuoso

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102


@vajim wrote:

@tagteam wrote:

@vajim wrote:
IMHO...'automatically' means you go to bed and when you wake up there's a new FW installed.  You did nothing.  In your case I would not call that automatic for you had to click a button and authorize/request the update.

I chose to install the firmware immediately, yes, but I'm fairly certain it would have installed itself during downtime (probably overnight) had I done nothing. I would call the foregoing procedure "automatic", at least somewhat.


That's a huge assumption.  However, you may be able to determine if it's true IF others report that it showed up in their system 'automatically'. No clicking allowed.

 

From my personal experience the ones that are auto-pushed are few and far between.  In that past this was the opposite for everything was pushed.  Then users wanted wanted freedom and whined and complained.  

 

But if your recent FW update works for you, then life is good.

 


 

I agree that I am assuming the install would happen automatically (overnight), but then that has been the procedure for other firmware versions that I did not choose to install immediately but appeared after clicking that link in the web UI; the new firmware downloaded, just sat there, and then the next day I discovered it had been installed.

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GMoGoody8
Apprentice

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Mine wasn’t automatic but both the web GUI and app notified me instantly there was an upgrade. Usually I manually install through support download page, but as of this morning this FW was not listed. I really think this was a major security update.
My Setup (Cable 1000Mbps/50Mbps)>CM1000>RBR50 V2.7.2.102(Router Mode)
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vajim
Master

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Major updates are usually pushed auto pilot.    Good luck.  

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John_Ba
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Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

 
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mrfranc
Apprentice

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Yes! Went to bed last night, and when the kids woke me up this morning, I have a notification on the phone from the Orbi app staying the my router has been successfully upgraded.
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vajim
Master

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

good

 

lets hope it's a good one.

 

 

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aaronka
Guide

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

100% Auto-push update on my RBR50. Went from V2.7.1.60 to V2.7.2.102 without any kind of input from me.  Also, my RBS50 did not get an update and is still stuck on V2.7.1.60.    Admin status page for Firmware update shows no updates for my router but sits in the "Please wait a moment...." status for my satellite, then it goes to something like "failed to update".  Everything seems fine with my network so not concerned yet.

 

 

Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
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StevenOrbi
Aspirant

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Yes mine upgraded automatically overnight and has initially fixed the iOS App not showing connected devices and eliminated the CDI... error when clicking the device icon.

I wish QA of their updates we way better.
Model: RBK53|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi System
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DerDoc
Luminary

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Merry Christmas!

 

Received an email that there is an important security update for my RBK50.

After I couldn't find anything on the german website I decided to look into the US community. 

Funny to get an email for an update that's not made for me (it's US only!).

 

 


Orbi RBK50 // Internet DG 600 down / 300 up
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tagteam
Virtuoso

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

So it is mid-afternoon, Eastern time in the U.S., on December 26th and v2.7.2.102 is still not on the download site. ????????

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

May not be seen for manual download until they decide to put it up there. Could be days or weeks. 


@tagteam wrote:

So it is mid-afternoon, Eastern time in the U.S., on December 26th and v2.7.2.102 is still not on the download site. ????????


 

My Setup (Cable 1Gbps/50Mbps)>CM1200 v2.02.03(LAG Disabled)>RBK50 v2.7.2.104(WW) Circle, DST and Traffic Meter>Enabled
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CAX80/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, R7800, R7960P, EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Release Notes:  V2.7.2.102
[Bug Fixes] Fixes the device manager display issue on the Orbi app.

My Setup (Cable 1Gbps/50Mbps)>CM1200 v2.02.03(LAG Disabled)>RBK50 v2.7.2.104(WW) Circle, DST and Traffic Meter>Enabled
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CAX80/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, R7800, R7960P, EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Orbi RBR50 Router Firmware Version V2.7.2.102

Looks like NG may have fixed the ARM storm issue with RBS Ethernet connected behind switches. 

I see that the ARP Storm still happens however it seems to stop on it's own and settles in after about 2-3 minutes after the RBS is ethernet connected behind the LAN switch.

AP Mode:

RBR50APmode2Switch2RBSAfter2minutes.pngRBR50APmode2Switch2RBSAfter3minutes.png

 

 

Router mode: RBR50RouterMode2Switch2RBS.png

 

I think NG could tune this a bit more to to get less ARP occurance. Though this is a start. 

 

My Setup (Cable 1Gbps/50Mbps)>CM1200 v2.02.03(LAG Disabled)>RBK50 v2.7.2.104(WW) Circle, DST and Traffic Meter>Enabled
Additional NG HW: C7800/CM1100/CAX80/CM2000, Orbi CBK40, R7800, R7960P, EX7500/EX7700, XR450 and WNHDE111
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